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    Quote Originally Posted by Estrecca View Post
    Because the planet destroying capacities of the Bifrost seem to be some kind of really slow acting, possibly chain reaction thingy that have never been deployed against moving targets?
    All worlds are by definition moving. We are moving right now about 18 miles per second, about 64,000 miles per hour. The bifrost is able to pin point that pretty well.

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    When you need to target fast moving ships numbering in the 1000s, we don't see Heimdall and the Bifrost having anywhere near the reaction time to do that.

    Shooting down things like that take tremendous fire control. I don't see a feat of Heimdall being able to target multiple incoming.

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    Why would he be waiting till they're actually incoming to Asgard. Once the year of prep is over, what's stopping him from targeting the flagship commanding the fleet while it's still in Imperial territory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Watcher View Post
    Why would he be waiting till they're actually incoming to Asgard. Once the year of prep is over, what's stopping him from targeting the flagship commanding the fleet while it's still in Imperial territory?
    Even more: once prep is done, simply teleport Thor directly onto whatever ship you want, deep in enemy territory. One Jotunheim-blast, that ship is an empty husk. Lather, rinse repeat. It would take the guy about an hour to take out the entire Imperial fleet - and that's if he stops for shwarma and a quickie with Jane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Watcher View Post
    Why would he be waiting till they're actually incoming to Asgard. Once the year of prep is over, what's stopping him from targeting the flagship commanding the fleet while it's still in Imperial territory?
    Presumably that would be the fact that the flagship is likely to be some variant of Death Star and therefore one would need to prove that the Bifrost can damage such, in spite of those things having the ability to remain undamaged in close proximity to planets that go kaboom.

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    Plus they can always jump to hyperspace at which point they're moving far faster than the asguardians have feats for tracking and targeting.

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    A year of prep?

    Pretty sure Asgard can pull out the plot devices (Tesseract, Aether, Cask of Ancient Winters, whatever else is in that armory) and handily win this, in that case.

    Also important distinction: Old-EU Empire, New EU Empire, or Strictly Movie canon Empire?
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    Once the year of prep is over, what's stopping him from targeting the flagship commanding the fleet while it's still in Imperial territory?
    Any competent military command has redundancy of command.

    Lather, rinse repeat. It would take the guy about an hour to take out the entire Imperial fleet
    1000 ships - that's about 3 sec a ship - don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    Any competent military command has redundancy of command.
    The Empire is hardly the most competent military around. In EU lore the Emperor was practically the only thing holding them together (and subconsciously at that), which is why they fragmented so badly after his death. Additionally, they had an unfortunate tendency to bunch together their best and brightest in centralized locations (The Death Star, the Executor). In the old EU it was often brought up that it was just as much the loss of "brain trust" that was represented in the destruction of the two Death Stars and the Executor as the loss of hardware that most contributed to the Empire's defeat.

    The real question is: Is Grand Admiral Thrawn alive and does he get time to study Asgardian and Xandarian art beforehand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmacq1 View Post
    Tesseract, Aether, Cask of Ancient Winters, whatever else is in that armory...
    Eye of Agamotto.
    Why are we here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Eye of Agamotto.
    That's there? Did I miss it?
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    That's there? Did I miss it?
    Seems it is

    http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/...7s_Trophy_Room

    I find it kind of funny how to the Casket of Ancient Winters has been pretty much forgetten since the first Thor, when most of the other big items have all been revealed as Infinity Stones/Gems

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