<insert name here> vs The Daily Bugle

[Len Ikari145]

Yeah JJJ cannot really do jack or **** to THor, Batman, Ironman, or Supes.

As for the girls obviously refernce to their outfits.

And yeah JJJ does that to SPdier Man for three really good reasons.

1: He is well known to the Public of NY and people love to read about what is going on local/ceelb wise no matte rwhat garbarge it is, therefore money. Not to mention Peter gives him DAMN GOOD PHOTOS to make it clear Spider Man is real!

It's like Bigfoot fighting crime, tkaing pictures of himself, giving you photos to make money, and he has no way to say so for he has to pay bills with some fo that money.

2: Spider Man's influence is so small, he cannot really do anything to change it. He cannot buy out JJJ or threaten him without looking like the menance.

3: Spdierman has a dman good reason to be spun. Consider the following. His back history. Especially with the Staceys. Gwen dies via Green Goblin, cops with her dad finds out, latter Stacey dies. Along with other instances of stuff like that. Peter gets into bad **** all the time, and he cannot fix his problems. SO in his vunerable state. The public and JJJ can blast away at him for it. Evne though he is trying to do the right thing.

The biggest irony I think about JJJ is?

He is not all bad. He does the Spide rMan thing because it makes him money, and he has supproted bad moves (Like HAMMER in Dark Reign.)

But he has had a damn good moment of being considered a good guy.


Mutants.

JJJ is a normal human with a big business, and he supports Mutant rights. Got to give him a point of good karma there.

Isn't Jonah's vendetta and distrust towards Spidey rooted by the fact his wife was killed by a man in the mask, or has that been retconned?

[FrenchGemini]

Isn't Jonah's vendetta and distrust towards Spidey rooted by the fact his wife was killed by a man in the mask, or has that been retconned?

IIRC, that one comes from the 90s animated series.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Isn't Jonah's vendetta and distrust towards Spidey rooted by the fact his wife was killed by a man in the mask, or has that been retconned?

Captain America or Doctor Doom: Who's The Bigger Menace?

Red Skull: Anti-Menace?

May Parker: Menace's Aunty?

[jimishim12]

There are four main reasons why JJJ's campaign against Peter actually bears a little fruit:

1. Peter isn't big, either in power or in impact on the world;
2. Peter keeps his identity as secret as he can, not giving anyone anything, so rumors hit harder;
3. Peter can't really stop JJJ in any way;
4. The populace of the Marvel world is rather paranoid and suspicious of metas.

For Thor, Superman, Iron Man and Batman, all four of these things are just not the case.

Thor, Superman and Iron Man aren't likely to suffer from any attempt to brand them as criminals. Even if people start to believe it (bloody unlikely), Thor isn't likely to give a crap and anyone with the kind of oomph to be capable of bringing him in (haha...) knows the truth. Like Thor, Iron Man is national/global, not some vigilante in a single city, and Stark will just do his own media relations spin on things...or not really care that the Daily Bugle's readership thinks he's horrible. Or buy the Bugle outright. Batman doesn't care and, should he so desire, can do the same thing as Stark (Wayne can buy the paper and have it focus on 'more important things than some lunatic running around in a bat suit'). Superman is in pretty much the same situation as Thor (even better, given he flies around helping out disaster victims or whatever) - a single newspaper going nutso on his rep is going to be met with a lot of derision and outright hostility, especially given the general DC populace attitude (Post Crisis, don't know about NuDC) of 'Superheroes make the world nice'.

Can't speak for Empowered or Sailor Moon.

That's bs imo, spider-man despite his low standing in the marvel u asa important public world figure for the hero side has more connections/support than anyone of his status should have. Even Loki of all people has his back. He could just ask Steve or Tony to make a request to the government to stop the slander of Spider-man permenantly as an act of an illegal slander. Or he could ask Dr. Strange or Loki to brainwash JJ to say positive things about Spider-Man via truth spell.

Lets just say the reason Jonah keeps bashing Spidey is comicbook PIS.

[Shellhead]

The real reason:

[master of read]

That's bs imo, spider-man despite his low standing in the marvel u asa important public world figure for the hero side has more connections/support than anyone of his status should have. Even Loki of all people has his back. He could just ask Steve or Tony to make a request to the government to stop the slander of Spider-man permenantly as an act of an illegal slander. Or he could ask Dr. Strange or Loki to brainwash JJ to say positive things about Spider-Man via truth spell.

Lets just say the reason Jonah keeps bashing Spidey is comicbook PIS.

yeah because that sounds like things peter would totally do.

[The MunchKING]

Not to mention isn't that horribly illegal and all? You know Free Speach and all that jazz?

If the government isn't going to stop papers from bad mouthing the government, they won't violate the law for Peter.

[master of read]

Not to mention isn't that horribly illegal and all? You know Free Speach and all that jazz?

If the government isn't going to stop papers from bad mouthing the government, they won't violate the law for Peter.

not to mention steve, tony, and strange have better things to do than abuse their powers just because JJ made bad words about peter.

[Guy1]

yeah because that sounds like things peter would totally do.

Kinda surprised Spock didn't.

[big_adventure]

Kinda surprised Spock didn't.

Spock did better: he first ingratiated himself with JJJ (who was mayor, not publisher at the time), then, when JJJ decided he was a menace, resorted to blackmail to keep all the support he needed.

[jimishim12]

yeah because that sounds like things peter would totally do.

Because that is totally not how a realistic person wouldn't stop a person publication on account of false conjecture, the daily bugle is a official publisher and Peter is one of the greatest street levelers in New York who has fucking been told by everyone to do something about being a J Jerkface J.

Not to mention isn't that horribly illegal and all? You know Free Speach and all that jazz?

If the government isn't going to stop papers from bad mouthing the government, they won't violate the law for Peter.

But in comicbook book land, it's kinda needs to be necessary because of misinterpreted circumstances that may lead Parker with a heap of trouble with the government regardless. But is bad writing reguardless to keep the character struggling and under the map as much as possible.

not to mention steve, tony, and strange have better things to do than abuse their powers just because JJ made bad words about peter.

They really don't, not after the stuff Peter has done for them, you just don't want to admit I'm right on this.

[Guy1]

Because that is totally not how a realistic person wouldn't stop a person publication on account of false conjecture, the daily bugle is a official publisher and Peter is one of the greatest street levelers in New York who has been told by everyone to do something about being a JJJ.

But in comicbook book land, it's kinda needs to be necessary because of misinterpreted circumstances that may lead Parker with a heap of trouble with the government regardless. But is bad writing reguardless to keep the character struggling and under the map as much as possible.

They really don't, not after the stuff Peter has done for them.

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jimishim12, that is enough. Edit your post and cease this behavior.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Point: Slander isn't protected speech, so suing JJJ is a perfectly valid tactic. Only it would require a ton of time, money, and non-self-loathing that Pete probably can't provide with his super heroing. Also, it would probably require him to reveal his secret identity, and Marvel civilians are dumb enough to try and racially intimidate transom mutants (AKA, the minority whose traits range from learning languages quickly to being a peer of Galactus) as well as try and mob She Hulk.

[master of read]

Because that is totally not how a realistic person wouldn't stop a person publication on account of false conjecture, the daily bugle is a official publisher and Peter is one of the greatest street levelers in New York who has fucking been told by everyone to do something about being a J Jerkface J.

But in comicbook book land, it's kinda needs to be necessary because of misinterpreted circumstances that may lead Parker with a heap of trouble with the government regardless. But is bad writing reguardless to keep the character struggling and under the map as much as possible.

They really don't, not after the stuff Peter has done for them, you just don't want to admit I'm right on this.

so steve, tony, and strange would violate their own personal and professional ethics to bully the editor of a newpaper because they owe peter?

you know they addressed this in EMH when JJ was talking **** about cap after that whole skull invasion. you know what cap did? his job. just ignored all the crap and **** jameson was slinging at him and just did what he always does: save lives. and it helped spidey figure what to do about JJ.

[master of read]

Point: Slander isn't protected speech, so suing JJJ is a perfectly valid tactic. Only it would require a ton of time, money, and non-self-loathing that Pete probably can't provide with his super heroing. Also, it would probably require him to reveal his secret identity, and Marvel civilians are dumb enough to try and racially intimidate transom mutants (AKA, the minority whose traits range from learning languages quickly to being a peer of Galactus) as well as try and mob She Hulk.

and peter is also the owner of his own company so he really doesn't have time for a law suit between his super-heroing and being a boss.