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    oh brother. did barack obama not count as first black pres because he's only part-black too? smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Avatar View Post
    It really only said her grandmother is. It would have been nice if they got someone where both of their parents are Native instead of someone is only partially.
    This sounds like insidious purity testing.

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    Indigenous People (Native is kinda an insensitive term) make up 1% of America's population. Its not like its a lot of them to just choose from. They should've just cast the Jacobs girl. Blu is gonna get killed for not being 100%


    No wonder Boone quit twitter this fucking fan base is ravenous

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    *sigh*

    Welcome to 2017 folks, where a non white Brazilian actor isn't black enough and a native isn't 100% native enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnC95 View Post
    *sigh*

    Welcome to 2017 folks, where a non white Brazilian actor isn't black enough and a native isn't 100% native enough.
    I'm surprised people are okay with light-skinned Rosario Dawson playing black CeCe Reyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    I'm surprised people are okay with light-skinned Rosario Dawson playing black CeCe Reyes.
    Rosario and Cece are both Afro Latina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnC95 View Post
    *sigh*

    Welcome to 2017 folks, where a non white Brazilian actor isn't black enough and a native isn't 100% native enough.
    The character is of Afro-Brazilian descent and said character looks like his Afro Brazilian father.

    Actually look at the replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai-Hulud View Post
    And if it takes place closer to Logan, mutant births will logically have tapered down to a great degree. Also, not much time for them to live until Charles has his seizure and kills everyone in the X-mansion. That's more ominous than Limbo and the Demon Bear.
    Exactly... we really need to think of the movie Logan as a "What If". That is actually what the original OML comic story WAS after all. If you take it as serious canon it radically changes so many things, and introduces MANY inconsistencies.

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeCBFanboy View Post
    I keep bringing this up every time someone mentions this. Charles did NOT kill all of the X-men in Logan. If you listen to the radio broadcast while Logan is driving from the casino, you'll hear a mention that only 7 mutants died in Xaviers mental breakdown. Among that 7 included several of the X-men, meaning that only 4-5 of them probably died. We even have a recent interview with one of the producers (Hutch Parker) who had to correct someone in an interview when they mentioned all of the X-men being killed off. He brought up the same exact sequence in the film.
    THe movie is playing fast and loose with facts clearly, it seems obvious the "Core" team was offed and that is why Wolvie and X are hiding and not still with the rest of the team carrying out missions against an obviously corrupt tyrannical (dare I say post Trump...) government. It would make absolutely no sense at all for plenty of XMen to have survived but Wolvie and Caliban act like they're the only mutants around and WOlvie is ultra mind boggled when he meets X-23

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeCBFanboy View Post
    The Xavier institute event happened one year before the events of Logan, which was confirmed in the same radio broadcast. It's more likely that they are scattered, and like you said, maybe some of them were running Eden!
    Another thing you need to just take with a grain of salt. There is no way in hell it's only been one year and all that has already happened. Things look super dire and bleak and hopeless. One year???? Plus with presumably tons of powerful trained mutants still out there??? Seriously watch the movie again makes NO sense to believe that I don't care what the exact specifics on that radio say. The overall film refutes it in its mood and tone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donna M. View Post
    And THAT'S my #1 problem right there! There is NO excuse in 2017 to not have a Native girl, especially a Native girl who's actually Cheyenne, cast for this role. Hold a casting call, put the effort in, the right Dani Moonstar is out there! Without accurate Native casting, I will not watch this film.
    Are you basing this assertion on the huge recent upswing in numbers of Cheyenne-based actresses of major blockbuster quality? Just wondering given your "It's 2017" remark. I fail to see how the year makes this any easier of a task given the actually tiny amounts of people involved and the high stakes for such a film.

    I know it's "not the same thing" but at a certain point you guys really do come across as sounding SLIGHTLY racist yourselves with this absolutist obsession with making sure a give role is 100% ethnically accurate in your minds (even though in the comics it seems to vary artist/writer to artist/writer....). It's almost like if someone said "I refuse to watch Deadpool 2 because they made my Domino not white anymore, Domino is obviously an albino or super pale, how dare they". You would seriously think that person was a racist! I know white supremacy is far more of a thing than black supremacy or asian supremacy or native american supremacy, it has had more real life consequences and whites are still more wealthy etc I understand. But at a certain core level, becoming THIS race obsessed is just not healthy and actually goes AGAINST the core ideas people like MLK Jr spoke about
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Gato View Post
    That actor they cast as Sunspot doesn't look White to me. He looks like a Mestizo so I wouldn't call it White washing but moreso stereotyping. Mestizos are what most people picture when it comes to Latin America.
    Brazil's pop is 53% Afro Brazilian and people who identify with Afro Brazilian. I don't care what so called "most people" picture. It's not accurate and people in Brazil or with Brazilian heritage will tell you that. It's that type of mindset that discredits Afro-Brazilians, Afro Mexicans, Afro-Chileans, and so on. it's bad enough that roles for Afro Brazilians are low tier in their own country and the issue of racism is very real in Brazil. But wiping out the character's Afro-Brazilian roots is wrong. Period.

    The actor doesn't look like the character from New Mutants to X-Force to etc. just like the Non-Brazilian Mexican actor in the first film. And those skin lightened pictures is not Sunspot. This skin lightening thing in comics has been an issue long before the movie was even made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbnormallyNormal View Post
    I know it's "not the same thing" but at a certain point you guys really do come across as sounding SLIGHTLY racist yourselves with this absolutist obsession with making sure a give role is 100% ethnically accurate in your minds (even though in the comics it seems to vary artist/writer to artist/writer....). It's almost like if someone said "I refuse to watch Deadpool 2 because they made my Domino not white anymore, Domino is obviously an albino or super pale, how dare they". You would seriously think that person was a racist! I know white supremacy is far more of a thing than black supremacy or asian supremacy or native american supremacy, it has had more real life consequences and whites are still more wealthy etc I understand. But at a certain core level, becoming THIS race obsessed is just not healthy and actually goes AGAINST the core ideas people like MLK Jr spoke about
    You cannot be flipping serious with a comment like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Well I'm brazilian and whether or not that matters for anyone, I was like wtf with that casting. Yeah he's brazilian, but it's still whitewashing. I know that in USA and stuff he's considered "latino" or something, but here, for everyone he would be white. I honestly think that casting someone from the same race as the character is more important than the nationality.
    Would you rather have someone who understands your culture/language and can give the writers/director/producers some good feedback, or just someone who looks the part?

    It's a bit like saying you want someone who looks a certain way over whether or not they can actually act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteQueenEmmaFrost View Post
    Would you rather have someone who understands your culture/language and can give the writers/director/producers some good feedback, or just someone who looks the part?

    It's a bit like saying you want someone who looks a certain way over whether or not they can actually act.
    I want someone who looks the part and who also can act the part. I don't know why people are assuming we only want someone who has the looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnC95 View Post
    *sigh*

    Welcome to 2017 folks, where a non white Brazilian actor isn't black enough and a native isn't 100% native enough.
    I'm also Brazillian and this guy is considered white here.
    It's insulting that just getting the nationality right makes it ok to some people.
    Not all Brazillians are people of color and I really don't consider him to be one. I doubt he ever suffered prejudice for being black like Sunspot's character would.


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    The Defenders persist even with Actual Brazilians calling BS.

    And lol at the Defenders acting like you cant find good actors who look the part. As if we know this actor is anyway talented.
    The standard whitewash justification they cast the most talented actor...based on what this guys biggest roles are bit parts in Teen Wolf and 13 Reasons Why.
    I don't even remember him from 13RW.

    Boone said it was important to cast accurately then pulls this BS if you don't care about it then don't act like you do.

    Beyond that I agree with AbnormallyNormal in respect to Logan.

    My reading of the movie was that the Charles killed or crippled pretty much everyone in the area 15-20 years ago except Wolverine. And its been at least a decade since we saw New Mutants actually born.

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    Oh boy, I cant wait for Dani casting.

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