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    Quote Originally Posted by vitruvian View Post
    There was a tie-in other than Ultimate End showing what goes on in merged Manhattan, specifically? Some of the other realms are a lot bigger and have room for some farmland, but there's pretty much no way for a city the size of Manhattan to grow enough food to feed its population.... and even if you were trying to do so, it would have to look very different, with basically every park, rooftop, and maybe street devoted to greenhouses and gardens.

    Unless Doom is magically zapping food into the supermarkets, of course.
    I wish I could remember the book, but it wasn't about Manhattan. It was some rural setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitruvian View Post
    Presumably going beyond the borders of the dimension (if that was even really what happened and not just what they remember) is at least as big a no no to Doom.
    It seems to me Cho and Stark didn't do anything. Something happened independant of the portal they had and it blinked out. Even if Doom drags Stark before him, what is the evidence Stark did anything? There was hardly any breach of dimensions, so disciplining Stark achieves nothing. All they have is memory of a portal, but everyone in that meeting knows about the portal. Doom would have to discipline them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    It seems to me Cho and Stark didn't do anything. Something happened independant of the portal they had and it blinked out. Even if Doom drags Stark before him, what is the evidence Stark did anything? There was hardly any breach of dimensions, so disciplining Stark achieves nothing. All they have is memory of a portal, but everyone in that meeting knows about the portal. Doom would have to discipline them all.
    The fact that there was a portal to begin with and no one took the initiative to shut it down is the crime. Everyone that knew about it is guilty, but mostly Tony and Cho. The rules are "no unauthorized travel" yet Tony and Cho clearly tried to keep Mysterio's portal open (assuming the events of Spider-Men were the cause of the portal as well here on Battleworld). So firstly Mysterio is to be punished, then Tony and Cho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    The fact that there was a portal to begin with and no one took the initiative to shut it down is the crime. Everyone that knew about it is guilty, but mostly Tony and Cho. The rules are "no unauthorized travel" yet Tony and Cho clearly tried to keep Mysterio's portal open (assuming the events of Spider-Men were the cause of the portal as well here on Battleworld). So firstly Mysterio is to be punished, then Tony and Cho.
    It needs to be clarified that before the Last Incursion, Tony and Cho were messing with Mysterios portal, not on Battleworld. Then something happened, and there was a portal overload, and we need to know the timing of the pre-SW incident and how that got transferred into the post-SW incident causing Thors to appear. It is very confusing.

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    Well, Secret Wars #3 dropped yesterday, and it let slip that the 616 life raft was discovered by Strange 3 years ago, Battleworld time. As Manhattan 616 and 1610 sections was formed from the last Incursion, and that happened around when the Life Raft was discovered, Ultimate End is at least 3 years old already. (We don't know how long the 616 life raft was lying around before Strange discovered it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB99 View Post
    So a lot of this didn't seem to make sense. Why is 616 Tony alive and why isn't he in his Superior armor? Why are 616 Spider-Man and Cyclops here instead of being on the raft? I can't tell if we're supposed to be confused for now or if we're just supposed to ignore what seems to be pretty big contradictions.
    Maybe it wasn't 616 Spider-Man. He seemed surprised that so many people knew his identity, and it shouldn't have been surprising to 616 Spidey.
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    All New X-Men #31



    Same scene as the Ultimate End #1 scene.

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