Are you Excited for Truth?

[manofsteel1979]

I miss that relationship too but who knows we might get a new twist to it eventually with a heart to heart between them about why he didn't feel he could tell her. This could eventually bring them closer as friends at least

This Clark reminds me of Smallville where he never told anyone they had to discover. Chloe saw him catch a car. Lana saw him rescue Chloe and Lois saw him fall from a building with kryptonite in him

Good point. there.

I do hope that out of all of this, when the genie gets put back in the bottle somehow (we all know it will. the question is how and when), Lois will still know and together her, Jimmy and perhaps even Perry White will all act as keepers of the secret. I'd love it if those three could become Clark's main support system. Perry a father figure, Jimmy his little brother in a way, and Lois as his closest confidante and eventualy (once DC gets the whole Power Couple thing out of their system) his partner. Just keeping those three having the knowledge of his dual identity would be a signifigant way (among others) to allow TRUTH to have a permanent impact going forward on the mythos once the secret ID and his full power set are restored.

That...and perhaps since he can't access his sunstone Fortress, he's forced to build a new fortress of solitude at the north pole with his bare hands....one that maybe requires him to lock it using a giant Key...

[Last Son of Krypton]

Thanks to Superlad and Auguste for the interviews. I like what Pak and Yang said.
I'm more intrigued by the secret identity thing and explore the "immigrant" side of Superman. But it is still too early to say "In Yang we trust", right?

[Superlad93]

-I found Yang's thoughts about Superman's moniker as the "Man of Tomorrow" and how the way people see the future has changed to something less physical and individualistic to something more cerebral and united quite interesting.

Yang's breakdown of the new definition of man of tomorrow and how it's creates friction with Superman was very compelling. If things like that were in the back of his mind while creating this story then my hype has gone up even more than it already was.

[Auguste Dupin]

Yang's breakdown of the new definition of man of tomorrow and how it's creates friction with Superman was very compelling. If things like that were in the back of his mind while creating this story then my hype has gone up even more than it already was.

You know what I really liked about Yang as a person here (and in other interviews)? He's not trying to overhype his story. He's not like "this is the Superman story I always wanted to make, and it will challenge Superman to his core" (despite the fact that, if you think about it, it totally does). He's explaining concepts about the character and the story that he finds interesting and wants to tackle and then he's all "now, hopefully, it appears on the page". I feel like there's a real sense of humility to this guy.
But yeah, if half of what he's saying does end up on the page, it's going to be a pretty interesting run. And if it's just that, I'm fine with it, since we have Pak doing the "exciting" parts.
I just hope Tomasi is less uneven than in his first arc. He's the "weak link" here, so to speak.

[Last Son of Krypton]

You know what I really liked about Yang as a person here (and in other interviews)? He's not trying to overhype his story. He's not like "this is the Superman story I always wanted to make, and it will challenge Superman to his core" (despite the fact that, if you think about it, it totally does).

What are you talking about?

[Will J.]

Action Comics #41 preview is up guys.

http://www.avclub.com/article/exclus...s-new-e-220160

Well, I was already on the fence about Truth, like I said before, but after reading this, I think I'm going to skip this.

Personally, and I only realized this after recognizing the great point Flash Gordon made earlier in the thread regarding how the writers deal with the new status quo, I think the length of the storyline could actually hurt it. Because there are only so many ways they'll be able to justify being able to keep Superman as he is in Truth, and given Tomasi's rather shoddy first go at it in the SM/WW preview, I'm not convinced this isn't going to get real old, real fast.

Edited to add that I completely recognize that, as a comic book fan, I'm required to suspend my disbelief for such things, but if I'm being completely honest, that has limits for me, especially when it has to do more with the writing than the characters themselves.

[Superlad93]

You know what I really liked about Yang as a person here (and in other interviews)? He's not trying to overhype his story. He's not like "this is the Superman story I always wanted to make, and it will challenge Superman to his core" (despite the fact that, if you think about it, it totally does). He's explaining concepts about the character and the story that he finds interesting and wants to tackle and then he's all "now, hopefully, it appears on the page". I feel like there's a real sense of humility to this guy.
But yeah, if half of what he's saying does end up on the page, it's going to be a pretty interesting run. And if it's just that, I'm fine with it, since we have Pak doing the "exciting" parts.
I just hope Tomasi is less uneven than in his first arc. He's the "weak link" here, so to speak.

Yeah Yang really does give off that vibe. It feels like more of a personal investment and we're all just lucky enough to look over his shoulder and see what he's thinking. It really makes me that much more interested in his work.

I feel like he and Pak are on the same page with everything and they're really feeding off each other. Like I was just saying or in the preview thread: it feels like this Truth arc is almost a big exhale for Pak. I feel like he can do this because of Yang's presumably strong backing. What Pak was saying about Superman's issues just being a way to explore our own real life issue just on a bigger scale had me clapping. To hear someone who's not Grant Morrison verbalize that in front of you is just the best.

Add all that to the idea of the exploration of identity via the immigrant experience and you've got me all the way!

Yeah Tomasi really feels like that in comparison. But that preview did interest me, and I'll be getting the book now even after dropping it a while ago. So we'll see.

[Ascended]

Pak never said anything about being a Batman fan other than saying that he finds that DKR Superman is interesting as an alternate take on it. And Morrison's has made the point many many times that he finds Superman to be one of the greatest ideas in the story of ideas.
And even then.....who cares what they say? It's their work that speak for themselves. In Pak's case, its obvious to me that he has a bigger affinity to Superman (seriously, his Batman is almost the weakest part of Batman/Superman), and Morrison has written one of the best regarded Superman story ever.
Seriously, the Superman fanbase needs to stop being insecure about Batman all the time. How do you want any one to take the character seriously if even his fans are obsessed with one upping other people all the time?

Yeah, I remember quite vividly Morrison talking about how he thinks Superman is one of the greatest concepts mankind has ever come up with. And he's not just talking fiction, he's including the wheel, electricity, porn, space travel, and everything else in there. You can love a fictional character, but it takes a special kind of affection to put that fictional character on the list of "best things ever in human history". And as far as I know, he's never said anything like that about Batman, though he clearly loves the character too.

And I dont care who Pak likes more either, his Superman is excellent, which is all that matters. And his Batman is....passable. Whether he likes one more than the other? Who gives a damn? He does his job and he does it well, his personal preferences are of no interest to me.

[Auguste Dupin]

Yeah Yang really does give off that vibe. It feels like more of a personal investment and we're all just lucky enough to look over his shoulder and see what he's thinking. It really makes me that much more interested in his work.

I feel like he and Pak are on the same page with everything and they're really feeding off each other. Like I was just saying or in the preview thread: it feels like this Truth arc is almost a big exhale for Pak. I feel like he can do this because of Yang's presumably strong backing. What Pak was saying about Superman's issues just being a way to explore our own real life issue just on a bigger scale had me clapping. To hear someone who's not Grant Morrison verbalize that in front of you is just the best.

Add all that to the idea of the exploration of identity via the immigrant experience and you've got me all the way!

Yeah Tomasi really feels like that in comparison. But that preview did interest me, and I'll be getting the book now even after dropping it a while ago. So we'll see.

He feels a bit like a teacher, while most comic writers on interviews sound like they're trying to sell you a carpet.
The feeling I get is that, unlike most crossovers where there's one lead guy and the others sort of follow through, "Truth" really was the combination of both authors' ideas. I'm convinced Yang came up with the exposed identity thing and Pak came up with the whole "depowered" thing (and Kuder with the T shirt), and then they combined it, making it easier for them to play off each other. Plus, they apparently knew each other before, it probably helps.
As for Tomasi, well....yeah, his preview was more interesting than most of his first arc.

[Auguste Dupin]

Yeah, I remember quite vividly Morrison talking about how he thinks Superman is one of the greatest concepts mankind has ever come up with. And he's not just talking fiction, he's including the wheel, electricity, porn, space travel, and everything else in there. You can love a fictional character, but it takes a special kind of affection to put that fictional character on the list of "best things ever in human history". And as far as I know, he's never said anything like that about Batman, though he clearly loves the character too.

And I dont care who Pak likes more either, his Superman is excellent, which is all that matters. And his Batman is....passable. Whether he likes one more than the other? Who gives a damn? He does his job and he does it well, his personal preferences are of no interest to me.

Yeah, his Batman is like.....it works, the guy's in character and all, but he doesn't feel very inspired by him.
With Superman, you have the feeling that he just naturally found his own voice, totally in character with the rest, grounded in Morrison's work, but still his own unique voice.
With Batman, it feels like he sorts of follow the basic rules and that's it. He could be written by anyone else.
Not that it really damage Batman/Superman, since it's mostly a Superman book with Batman as a guest star.

[MeloDet]

I think Pak himself describes it pretty well in the NoC interview. There are some characters that he grew to understand and love as he wrote them, and there are others that he felt he had an instinctual connection to. Superman just happens to be one of those.

[Blacksun]

I miss that relationship too but who knows we might get a new twist to it eventually with a heart to heart between them about why he didn't feel he could tell her. This could eventually bring them closer as friends at least

This Clark reminds me of Smallville where he never told anyone they had to discover. Chloe saw him catch a car. Lana saw him rescue Chloe and Lois saw him fall from a building with kryptonite in him

Clark on smallville had a very good reason for that, he told to Lana and she died. He reversed the time to not t=do that and then his father died. new 52 superman has only his patronizing and parciality, he totally told Jimmy but not Lois and it wasn't even gave any explanation and I doubt writers will explain.

there was many chances to make clark and lois close but writers blow up every time, they will probably keep blowing up and giving Lois role to others characters

[misslane]

This Clark reminds me of Smallville where he never told anyone they had to discover. Chloe saw him catch a car. Lana saw him rescue Chloe and Lois saw him fall from a building with kryptonite in him

First, Lois found out because she could tell Clark from his kiss when he, as The Blur, kissed her. Seeing him fall from the building just confirmed it. Clark didn't know Lois found out that way, though, so when he finally told her in "Isis" he was confiding in what he thought was an unaware Lois.

All my life I’ve been afraid, Lois. Afraid of people knowing the truth about me. Afraid of them rejecting me, and even if they didn’t, still losing them. I’ve been afraid of everything I can’t control. But when I was faced with the idea of losing you forever, it made me realize there’s something I’d regret more than anything else, and that’s not telling you the truth about me. ‘Cause that’s the only way we could share a life together. I know the odds are stacked against us and we’d be risking everything, but if you’re ready to take that leap, there’s no one else that I’d want to take that leap with.

[Loose Threads]

well lois will have a role, but she lost her original role to Jimmy. I really miss the time when clark confessed to her about being superman and everything else. and I have no idea if it will ever be back

To be fair, Jimmy has rarely had a crack at the role and it's refreshing to see it turned on it's head like that. Lois having a different journey to becoming at first a roadblock and then something more familiar to us will be worth more to read than to just have it saddled with us right away

As the old Trope says, "Earn Your Happy Ending"

[Uncanny Mutie]

A Superman story where he loses his powers for the 900th time, gets stabbed in the back by one of his closest friends, has no secret identity, and is lashing out at everyone around him? A story where he rides around on a motorcycle and can't even beat up Jim freaking Gordon? A story that begins with "Superman" boo-hooing over the loss of an easily repaired piece of cloth?

Nope. Not excited. Won't be buying any of the affected books until this crap is over.

LOL, that basically sums it up.