Secret Wars #3 Thoughts *Spoilers*

[KOSLOX]

I can't understand how Susan was "able to kill" her brother... It was HER BROTHER...

And sifighter... I think Strange didn't knew it was them inside that raft...

By the way... People are asking how is the PF "alive"? Well, as long as parts of the Battleworld are from the PF universe, it will lives... It's my understanding... And since there are parts and characters alive from that universe...

Maybe it will be used to create the new universe also

I'm sure it will, along with the Infinity Gems.

[NunoTaborda]

I thought Johnny was still alive as the sun.

Can't full understand if he's still alive... Is it possible?

Even if he is, it's like he's in solitary and suffering for the last years... Death is a mercy comparing to that :S

I'm sure it will, along with the Infinity Gems.

Spear of Bashenga, good theory

[Crimz]

Sue choosing Johnny's punuishment and it being so sever seems so wrong and not like her, Someone capable of that wouldn't tell Doom to show mercy to the Braddocks.
I think that there is more going on here with her.

Now that the 616 raft is open things are really starting.

[Hariel0079]

I can't understand how Susan was "able to kill" her brother... It was HER BROTHER...

And sifighter... I think Strange didn't knew it was them inside that raft...

By the way... People are asking how is the PF "alive"? Well, as long as parts of the Battleworld are from the PF universe, it will lives... It's my understanding... And since there are parts and characters alive from that universe...

Maybe it will be used to create the new universe also

That's not how the PF works, BW is a planet not a universe. like I said in a previous post "E for Extinction" SW Tie-in has a Phoenix Egg in it. It'll most likely tie-in to what happens and pretty much suggest that Scott losses the PF.

[Crimz]

Interesting that 610 characters from Earth 610 were in suspended animation for 8 years! One of them is 610 Reed I understand.

Can't wait to read about 616 Reed, 616 Scott, 616 Jane, 616 Peter Quill, 616 T'Challa, 616 Carol and 616 Peter mephistoverse being discovered alive in future issues of Secret Wars.
Also hoping for confirmation in future issues that 616 Susan, Valeria, Franklin, Johnny and Ben Grimm are dead

This all but confirmed that they are alive but with changed memories. So get over it.

[Hariel0079]

Sue choosing Johnny's punuishment and it being so sever seems so wrong and not like her, Someone capable of that wouldn't tell Doom to show mercy to the Braddocks.
I think that there is more going on here with her.

Now that the 616 raft is open things are really starting.

If anything it brings into perspective johnny being in UIH post SW and rumor has it that Ben ends up in GoTG. Probably due to the fall out of SW and what many went through.

[sifighter]

I can't understand how Susan was "able to kill" her brother... It was HER BROTHER...

And sifighter... I think Strange didn't knew it was them inside that raft...

By the way... People are asking how is the PF "alive"? Well, as long as parts of the Battleworld are from the PF universe, it will lives... It's my understanding... And since there are parts and characters alive from that universe...

Maybe it will be used to create the new universe also

That's true, he couldn't know exactly what was inside it but you think after three years and knowing that it was created before the creation of Battleworld, since they can scan for that, he would take a look inside to see what/who could be in there. Curiosity and all.

Although, I wonder if Doom knows about this or not. It could be interesting if Strange is keeping this kind of secret from him.

[sifighter]

Sue choosing Johnny's punuishment and it being so sever seems so wrong and not like her, Someone capable of that wouldn't tell Doom to show mercy to the Braddocks.
I think that there is more going on here with her.

Now that the 616 raft is open things are really starting.

You have to remember that he showed Brian mercy not Jaime who got sent to the SHIELD and died fighting the undead. Doom wanted to send Johnny there where he would probably end up dead, Sue's punishment while severe still keeps her brother alive instead of death at the hands of Zombies, Ultrons, and the annihilation wave.

[Fokken]

Sorry, forgive me, the numbers game throws me -- blame my dyscalculia --- but, which raft opened and who was inside?

Was it OUR world's raft and heroes, or an alternate world's raft?

[Spider-Tron]

Good issue but left me wanting more in an unsatisfied manner.
Nice they finally revealed the heroes.
Annoying how Miles was shoehorned in. Feel like he has no place here and its pretty annoying.
Interesting Doom/Susan Dynamic. Its gonna kill Reed.

[TheCatBastet]

That's true, he couldn't know exactly what was inside it but you think after three years and knowing that it was created before the creation of Battleworld, since they can scan for that, he would take a look inside to see what/who could be in there. Curiosity and all.

Although, I wonder if Doom knows about this or not. It could be interesting if Strange is keeping this kind of secret from him.

He might not. Strange did mention in the preview pages that Doom is not omniscient.

[NunoTaborda]

That's not how the PF works, BW is a planet not a universe. like I said in a previous post "E for Extinction" SW Tie-in has a Phoenix Egg in it. It'll most likely tie-in to what happens and pretty much suggest that Scott losses the PF.

Yes, but BW got parts from that universe... Does the all universe need to be "alive" or the PF to be "alive" as well? I dunno :S

That's true, he couldn't know exactly what was inside it but you think after three years and knowing that it was created before the creation of Battleworld, since they can scan for that, he would take a look inside to see what/who could be in there. Curiosity and all.

Although, I wonder if Doom knows about this or not. It could be interesting if Strange is keeping this kind of secret from him.

True! But, we need to give a little space for this minor "mistakes"... It's the way the writers can create a good story They can always say that Strange was always always always really busy

You have to remember that he showed Brian mercy not Jaime who got sent to the SHIELD and died fighting the undead. Doom wanted to send Johnny there where he would probably end up dead, Sue's punishment while severe still keeps her brother alive instead of death at the hands of Zombies, Ultrons, and the annihilation wave.

Also true But I think any character, even in the fictional world, would go crazy after being the sun and not being able of doing anything else for so many years :S Unless he is "asleep" while being the sun... That I can accept...

[Kevinroc]

Sorry, forgive me, the numbers game throws me -- blame my dyscalculia --- but, which raft opened and who was inside?

Was it OUR world's raft and heroes, or an alternate world's raft?

spoilers:

Dr. Strange showed Miles the 616 raft and they opened it, finding the characters who had escaped into it from Secret Wars #1.

end of spoilers

[sifighter]

Sorry, forgive me, the numbers game throws me -- blame my dyscalculia --- but, which raft opened and who was inside?

Was it OUR world's raft and heroes, or an alternate world's raft?

Two rafts were opened, the Ultimate Universe and the Regular Universe. The Ultimate one opened last issue which had the Cabal and the evil Reed Richards(The Maker), however Miles Morales stowed away as shown this issue. The Regular one opened this issue with Mr. Fantastic, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Star-Lord, Thor(Jane Foster), Spiderman, and the Phoenixed Cyclops all came out.

Edit: Uh, do I need to change my post for the one above with spoilers that answers the same question.

[Fokken]

Thanks y'all.
And OUR heroes have been in stasis for 8 years? Oofta.