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    -Good v.s. Evil; specifically righteous villains vs flawed heroes.
    -Powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men.
    -Crusading for truth and justice against corruption and tyranny.

    I'm a fan of heroic mythology from any age.

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    Comics have given me moments like these:




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    For me it's because anything can be made to fit!



    Where a super-team can have a cowboy, Robin Hood and his Merry Man, a Knight in shining armor, a flag come alive and a guy with a gas gun...
    For that matter, a team called The 7 Soldiers of Victory can have 8 members...

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    Speedy's just a sidekick, they don't count.

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    ...and historical racism!

    EDIT: Speedy actually counted. It's poor chauffeur/stereotype Wing that didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox View Post
    ...and historical racism!

    EDIT: Speedy actually counted. It's poor chauffeur/stereotype Wing that didn't.
    Does he have the stylized question mark chest emblem because he's an inscrutable Oriental?

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    It's probably an ancient Chinese secret.
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    The internet tells me Wing is his first name. So either the Soldiers are so racist they won't let him have a superhero name or Wing is so damn badass he doesn't care about keeping a secret identity. He wants every mobster to know Wing bloody How beat them up.

    Which means Wing is harder than Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles RB View Post
    The internet tells me Wing is his first name. So either the Soldiers are so racist they won't let him have a superhero name or Wing is so damn badass he doesn't care about keeping a secret identity. He wants every mobster to know Wing bloody How beat them up.

    Which means Wing is harder than Batman.
    The Crimson Avenger & his chauffeur Wing reeks of The Green Hornet & his chauffeur Kato.
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    That's presumably who they were ripping off.

    I mean inspired by.

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    Sadly, Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory was also exceptionally rare in that it had two black guys on the team. Two! Two of them! At the same time! Which, really, the Code never would have allowed.

    Two and some change, since Frankenstein's got bodyparts of various lineages. And, a team with two women, neither of whom are the femme fatale A trans man. Um... Klarion, too.

    All the teams in that comic were fairly diverse, naturalistically, and none of the horrible boxes are ticked, like "angry ethnic man forced onto team by quota," "here only to get kidnapped or cause sexual anxieties in men," or "he's not on the team, he irons my slacks." Chop Suzy's set up for so much potential wrongness, and really, she comes out of it great, being exoticized by people in the story, not the story itself, while the events/scenarios show how much damage that ends up doing. (Same with in-story werewolf bigotry, I suppose.) There are racial and cultural confluences all throughout the comic, from the twins to pop stars, all sorts of political and social stuff, from society's born from rape, slavery, and colonization to the anticipatory sex dynamics in Bulleteer or Manhattan Guardian.
    Patsy Walker on TV! Patsy Walker in new comics! Patsy Walker in your brain! And Jessica Jones is the new Nancy! (Oh, and read the Comics Cube.)

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    Of course, the gimmick of Morrison's Seven Soldiers is that they never actually come together as a team. Some of them didn't even meet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Speedy's just a sidekick, they don't count.
    Then neither do Wing and Stripesy, and they're the 5 Soldiers of Victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t hedge coke View Post
    All the teams in that comic were fairly diverse, naturalistically, and none of the horrible boxes are ticked, like "angry ethnic man forced onto team by quota," "here only to get kidnapped or cause sexual anxieties in men," or "he's not on the team, he irons my slacks." Chop Suzy's set up for so much potential wrongness, and really, she comes out of it great, being exoticized by people in the story, not the story itself, while the events/scenarios show how much damage that ends up doing. (Same with in-story werewolf bigotry, I suppose.) There are racial and cultural confluences all throughout the comic, from the twins to pop stars, all sorts of political and social stuff, from society's born from rape, slavery, and colonization to the anticipatory sex dynamics in Bulleteer or Manhattan Guardian.
    And as well as all the intellectual stuff and the incredibly intricate construction, there's an underground train full of PIRATES. Truly a classic in our times!

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    Pirates make everything better, especially if they're NOT on the sea! Dinosaur pirates are even better, but they've only had a single appearance, to my knowledge.
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    I have to check my trades, but I'm pretty sure the subway pirates ride a disused R train.
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