Secret Wars 2099 #2 (Spoilers, Shock It!)

[resipsaloquitur]

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to just have a megathread for SW 2099 #1-4 since these series are so short. Anyway, development in this issue:

spoilers:

- The Specialist (a baddie from the original Spider-Man 2099 series) attempts to kill Roberta Mendez, but she changes into Captain America and stops him. The Specialist kills himself rather than being taken alive. Roberta still doesn't remember her time as Cap. Her husband is revealed to be a sleeper agent who keeps an eye on her. - Black Widow's been eating criminals. Miguel warns her to either stop or at least hide it better. - Hercules is still Hercules. We see him wrestling Junkpile (an old X-Men 2099 enemy). He bumps into Roberta and calls her "Captain." Is she beginning to figure things out? - Miguel sends the Avengers after an arms runner who apparently employed the Specialist. - Unfortunately, the Hulk 2099 has gotten to him first. He doesn't want the Avengers getting in the way. This leads to a conflict between the Avengers and the 2099 Defenders: Hulk, Strange, and Silver Surfer. Next issue's cover includes Roman the Sub-Mariner and a 2099 Valkyrie.

end of spoilers

All in all an OK issue, though it's in the middle of the story (is this 4 or 5 parts?) so we're left hanging. I still feel like Sliney's art is a little static--there's a scene with the Specialist in the beginning that repeats a panel and looks very dry for what should be a dramatic moment. Also, there's still no apparent connection to the larger Battleworld story, as we have no references to Doom or Zombies or whatever. That's fine with me, though people may question what the point of the series is when it has no larger connection to the event. Lastly, it's still unclear how this connects to either PAD/Sliney's Spidey 2099 series or the original 90s run. We still don't know how Miguel got back to the future, what he's up to, or how spoilers:

Hulk

end of spoilers is alive or why spoilers:

Strange is no longer a demon

end of spoilers. Hopefully that's coming.

[Holt]

I think all of the series based off prior works have been altered to some degree so I assume the inconsistencies with PAD's Spider-Man 2099 or the original 2099 books are the result of Doctor Doom's tampering with reality.

[Model 1911A1 Cal .45]

So you think Miguel took Black Widow up on the offer?

[nx01a]

Miguel's a smart boy and a spider boy. He knows how mating with a black widow goes for the male involved.

I enjoyed the issue though it felt very short.
>I've never read Hulk 2099 or Silver Surfer 2099 before and my only experience with Strange 2099 was in the just concluded Spider-Man 2099 series so I have just as much investment with them as I do with the Avengers 2099: very little.
>Even in 2099 Hawkeye gets no respect.
>Captain America's duality is the most interesting part of the book. If the husband is planted, what about the kids? Why even have an alternate personality in the first place much less why continue the facade now that her cover's been blown?
>I'm waiting for Miguel to flash his fangs and claws.

[Kurolegacy]

One thing about Hulk 2099; isn't he supposed to be much larger than he's shown to be here? Also I'm not sure that this is supposed to be Miguel's 2099 but rather an alternate 2099 where Stone raised Miguel and he ended up succeeding him as CEO.

[spuddybuddy35]

I really hope some of the other 2099 X characters show up. It was nice to see Junkpile. I'm curious about this Valkyrie on the cover for next issue. I wonder if she's real Norse or one of the Fall of the Hammer Alchemax knock offs. There is so much I want from this series for nostalgia's sake, but I better keep my expectations low.

I don't mind the story so far, but it does seem pretty slow for a 5 issue run.

[PiercedMonk]

I really hope some of the other 2099 X characters show up. It was nice to see Junkpile.

I'd love to see Meanstreak, Krystalin, and Shakti show up, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. I know PAD doesn't have a huge amount of affinity for the 2099 X-Men -- he's stated in interviews that he didn't like the fact that Jordan Boone was transformed into Halloween Jack -- and I imagine they'll want to keep the cast a manageable size.

I'm curious about this Valkyrie on the cover for next issue. I wonder if she's real Norse or one of the Fall of the Hammer Alchemax knock offs.

If this is a 2099 as opposed to our 2099, I have to wonder if the 'Fall of the Hammer' would have happened. We know that Doom is God King of Battleworld, and some territories are definitely aware of the fact. Are there still Thorites, or does everyone simply worship Doom?

My assumption is that both Hercules and Valkyrie, are the modern versions who lived through to their 2099.

There is so much I want from this series for nostalgia's sake, but I better keep my expectations low.

Absolutely. This book has me tempted to dig out all my old issues.

[Drakeon]

All the zones on Battleworld are alternate versions of thier original stories.

[PiercedMonk]

All the zones on Battleworld are alternate versions of thier original stories.

Right, but the question is just how alternate this alternate version is.

[jackolover]

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to just have a megathread for SW 2099 #1-4 since these series are so short. Anyway, development in this issue:

spoilers:

- The Specialist (a baddie from the original Spider-Man 2099 series) attempts to kill Roberta Mendez, but she changes into Captain America and stops him. The Specialist kills himself rather than being taken alive. Roberta still doesn't remember her time as Cap. Her husband is revealed to be a sleeper agent who keeps an eye on her. - Black Widow's been eating criminals. Miguel warns her to either stop or at least hide it better. - Hercules is still Hercules. We see him wrestling Junkpile (an old X-Men 2099 enemy). He bumps into Roberta and calls her "Captain." Is she beginning to figure things out? - Miguel sends the Avengers after an arms runner who apparently employed the Specialist. - Unfortunately, the Hulk 2099 has gotten to him first. He doesn't want the Avengers getting in the way. This leads to a conflict between the Avengers and the 2099 Defenders: Hulk, Strange, and Silver Surfer. Next issue's cover includes Roman the Sub-Mariner and a 2099 Valkyrie.

end of spoilers

All in all an OK issue, though it's in the middle of the story (is this 4 or 5 parts?) so we're left hanging. I still feel like Sliney's art is a little static--there's a scene with the Specialist in the beginning that repeats a panel and looks very dry for what should be a dramatic moment. Also, there's still no apparent connection to the larger Battleworld story, as we have no references to Doom or Zombies or whatever. That's fine with me, though people may question what the point of the series is when it has no larger connection to the event. Lastly, it's still unclear how this connects to either PAD/Sliney's Spidey 2099 series or the original 90s run. We still don't know how Miguel got back to the future, what he's up to, or how spoilers:

Hulk

end of spoilers is alive or why spoilers:

Strange is no longer a demon

end of spoilers. Hopefully that's coming.

I'm grateful for mentioning who spoilers:

Strange is, as well as Valkarie and Roman.

end of spoilers. The story itself is pedestrian, hitting conventional beats of a super hero story, but with a slight disquiet introduced concerning the Black Widows activities. The husband of Roberta is a little concerning also. The attitude of Hawkeye is a little curious, and claws seem to be the normal state of affairs around 2099.

I do wonder if the baddie slips away in the confusion, John Eisenhart, (ironheart), a very unfortunate name. But what is a guy gunning for super heroes, eating in such a public place as a Latverian restaurant, when he should be extremely guarded about his own security? One wonders if this wasn't all orchestrated just to get the two teams to face off? I mean, leaving a calling card in the pocket of the hit man. Really?

[Kurolegacy]

Right, but the question is just how alternate this alternate version is.

I'd imagine pretty far into it considering that in this version of 2099 Miguel was seemingly raised by Tyler Stone and an entirely different version of the Avengers exist compared to the original 2099. Of course this isn't the first alternate 2099 we've seen over the years considering we have Timestorm, the 2099 where Magik is Sorceress Supreme and the 2099 where Tony Stark is Sorcerer Supreme.