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    Two more cinematic references in #51 today.

    I never thought about it, but I could totally see Selina as a cinema buff, especially classic cinema. It also works as a nice little nod to the initial "femme fatale" inspiration for her character way back in the golden age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatGlamorous View Post
    Two more cinematic references in #51 today.

    I never thought about it, but I could totally see Selina as a cinema buff, especially classic cinema. It also works as a nice little nod to the initial "femme fatale" inspiration for her character way back in the golden age.
    I love the idea of Selina being a cinema buff. I've been enjoying Tierri's run and hope that if she gets a solo book down the line (after All Star Batman?) he gets to write it.
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    There's some sweet Selina/Pamela bonding going on in the preview for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #4

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    Selina was a blast in Poison Ivy #4. She kept poking at an irritable Ivy, teasing her about her colleague who had a crush on her, and was having a ball in general. The Selina/Ivy dynamics were pretty endearing and it is refreshing to see just the two of them interact without the shadow of Harley.




    You guys can pick up the issue even if you haven't been following the mini so far. It's incredibly enjoyable and pretty new reader friendly too.

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    Why the hell isn't Catwoman popular anymore? Why won't anyone buy her book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiSentinel View Post
    Why the hell isn't Catwoman popular anymore? Why won't anyone buy her book?
    maybe because of crap writers or maybe people just see her as a bland sex object for batman to chase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysalis_Changling View Post
    maybe because of crap writers or maybe people just see her as a bland sex object for batman to chase?
    But she's not. She's one of the most iconic and interesting female characters of the 20th century. More so than Wonder Woman. More so than Harley Quinn. More so than Batgirl or Batwoman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiSentinel View Post
    Why the hell isn't Catwoman popular anymore? Why won't anyone buy her book?
    I think it boils down to a lack of prioritizing. DC doesn't really promote her inside the books. She's still included in merchandise that you find at Hot Topic and other places so they clearly know she's popular.

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    she's more popular than jason todd and he's got a book...

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    It doesn't help that people still associate her with that terrible 2004 movie.

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    Ugly outdated costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klynn View Post
    I love the idea of Selina being a cinema buff. I've been enjoying Tierri's run and hope that if she gets a solo book down the line (after All Star Batman?) he gets to write it.
    If the cinema love is a thing (best hobby ever?) I'll have a peek at the book. Always liked FilmFreak during Pfeifer's run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiSentinel View Post
    Why the hell isn't Catwoman popular anymore? Why won't anyone buy her book?
    Currently? I think it's because the uptick in quality from Valentine's writing shored up some support from people who were very curious to see "what happens next" and when that became "take it back to formula" they dropped off. The current creative team sounds like it's doing great, but there's still some massive damage left over from the pre-Valentine arcs, and while some people found the Valentine story to be lacking and miserably paced, having the entire thing thrown out the window immediately afterward kind of feels stupid. I for one think they should have found a way to build off the premise of Queenpin returning to thievery and use that TK relaunch the book, not just try and sweep the whole thing under the rug.

    I think it went like this:

    Winick's Catwoman (people get kind of turned off by the horrible fanfiction in the first issue)-->Nocenti's Catwoman (people drop the book like the plague because it's sucks)--> Valentine's Queenpin Catwoman (story starts too quickly with no set-up for how we got here aside from her new father, takes too long to get things done, but has an uptick in quality and atmosphere)--> current Catwoman (is decent, at the least, but kicks out previous entires fans who replaced the earlier fans).
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    Man, I'd love to see a new Sirens book after reading Ivy's last issue. But DC put Harley on too high a pedestal, especially with the new movie, to "demote" her back to a Sirens book I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiSentinel View Post
    But she's not. She's one of the most iconic and interesting female characters of the 20th century. More so than Wonder Woman. More so than Harley Quinn. More so than Batgirl or Batwoman.
    Agreed. I like all these characters, but out of any of them Selina has a nice intersection of longevity and being (arguably) more interesting due to her moral ambiguity.
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