Rumbler's League - Draft / Store Changes and Additions Discussion

[Tami]

This is the Master Thread for discussing possible changes, deletions and additions to the Draft and item Lists.

For reference:

Spring Draft/Store Changes List

Rumbler's League Wiki

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Master List

Character Additions
Agent 3 (Splatoon) 2
Analog (Ctrl+Alt+Delete) 4
Annie Leonhardt (Attack on Titan) 6
Anvil/Kenya Cassidy (Grrl Power Webcomic) 5

Ban Midou (Getbackers) 8
Bungaku Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 7

Cascade (DC) 6
Cruiser (DC) 6

D-Pad (Ctrl+Alt+Delete) 4
Dabbler/Xuriel Shahara Tantalis (Grrl Power Webcomic) 8

Eren Yaeger (Attack on Titan) 6

Fabian Gray (Five Ghosts) 4

Fell (Five Ghosts Special) 4
Finale (DC) 5

Gagamaru Chougasaki (Medaka Box) 7
Ginji Amano (Getbackers) 7
Gouriki Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 7

Hakai Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 8
Harem/Daphne DeShantis (Grrl Power Webcomic) 6
Halo/Sydney Scoville, Jr. (Grrl Power Webcomic) 7
Hikyo Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 6
Himiko Kudo (Getbackers) 6

Iai Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 7
Inkling Boy (Splatoon) 1
Inkling Girl (Splatoon) 1
Indigo (DC) 4

Joe Phat (Mage: The Hero - series) 4
Judar (Magi) 7

Katana (DC Comics - New 52) 5
Kazuki Fuuchouin (Getbackers) 7
Ken Kaneki/Haise Sasaki (Tokyo Ghoul) 4
Kevin Matchstick w/bat (Mage: The Hero - series) 6
King Mickey (Kingdom Hearts Games) 7
Kirby Hero (Mage: The Hero D - Series) 6
Kongou Banchou (No evolved form) (Nanatsu no Taizai) 8
Kongou Banchou (Evolved Form) (Nanatsu no Taizai) 9
Kosh (Babylon 5) 7
Kuroudo Akabane (Getbackers) 8
Kuudou Hinokage (Medaka Box) 7

Levi Ackerman (Attack on Titan) 4

Machine Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 8
Maxima/Maximillia Leander (Grrl Power Webcomic) 8
Medaka Kurokami (Medaka Box) 8
Mentok the Mind Taker (Harvey Birdman) 9
Mirth (Mage: The Hero Discovered - Series) 5

Nenbutsu Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 6
Network (DC) 5

Pajama Sam (Pajama Sam Games) 1

Rampart (DC) 4
Reflex (DC) 5
Riku (Kingdom Hearts Games) 7

Sasori Banchou (Nanatsu no Taizai) 5
Shibuki Shibushi (Medaka Box) 6
Skull, The (Marvel: Earth X) 6
Sora (Kingdom Hearts Games) 7
Standard Wagon Train (Super Amazing Wagon Train) 3

The Codpiece (DC) 4
The Miroku 7 (Getbackers) 8
Triple Metal Man (Justice League: Gods and Monsters) 7

Wagon Train of Choice (Super Amazing Wagon Train) 4

Veles (PS238) 7
Vlad Tepes III (Dracula Untold) 5

Zenkichi Hitoyoshi (Medaka Box) 5



Character Changes/Deletions


Item Additions
Absorption of half the souls of Xerxes (Full Metal Alchemist) 9
Alchemy Pot Fusion (Dragon Quest Series) 8
Ant-Man Suit & Accessories (Marvel Cinematic Universe) 5
Anti Matter Weapon (Doubutsu no Kuni) 9

Chemical Fever (Doubutsu no Kuni) 8

Inkling Boy Amiibo (Real World) 1
Inkling Girl Amiibo (Real World) 1
Inkling Squid Amiibo (Real World) 1
Inkopolis Amiibo Case (Splatoon) 6

Key to the City (X-Ray & Vav) 4

Nah Nohtek (Sparks Nevada, Marshal on Mars) 5

Robot Fists (Sparks Nevada, Marshal on Mars) 3

Sleipnier Exoskeleton(Doubutsu no Kuni) 7

Tentacle implants - Korosensei (Assassination Classroom) 8
The Codpiece (DC) 4
The Deadly Duplicator's Deadly Duplicator (Harvey Birdman) 10

Vial of Metals, All (Mistborn novels) 2



Item Changes/Deletions
Remove/Modify the Order Morphers from Charlotte

Super Saiyan Wish needs to go or be upped to 10, because it makes no sense as an 8. Big Gette Star too from Siriel

[Nik Hasta]

If we're going to get into the issue of OI I'd personally like less of them.

Or maybe less that are super good. Part of the challenge of league is to use stuff that exists in fiction to make interesting combos. A lot of the popular OI are essentially composite items which feel a bit unbalanced to me.

Or perhaps a more accurate term is too balanced. The item sets of the Greek and Egyptian gods and the morphers, for example. They mostly offer multiple really good boosts which makes them very desirable and makes builds less diverse as a result.

So yeah, I'm not saying ban them outright but I think we should take a hard look at what's on the table and scale some things back.

I've also got some fun stuff to add which will be forthcoming as time allows.

[Tami]

If we're going to get into the issue of OI I'd personally like less of them.

Or maybe less that are super good. Part of the challenge of league is to use stuff that exists in fiction to make interesting combos. A lot of the popular OI are essentially composite items which feel a bit unbalanced to me.

Or perhaps a more accurate term is too balanced. The item sets of the Greek and Egyptian gods and the morphers, for example. They mostly offer multiple really good boosts which makes them very desirable and makes builds less diverse as a result.

So yeah, I'm not saying ban them outright but I think we should take a hard look at what's on the table and scale some things back.

I've also got some fun stuff to add which will be forthcoming as time allows.

it might be easier if you list some OIs that you think should be removed. Whenever you get the chance.

[Sharkerbob]

Just delete all mine.

[Dalak]

Just delete all mine.

But . . Pants-Fu. That's too awesome to die!

[Estrecca]

Rather than deletion, I'd suggest putting OIs in general in a ghetto of their own, rather than deleting them outright, and handle them with OI specific rules.

One competition wants to be OI-free? 'kay, the ghetto is closed.

One competition wants to limit the amount of OIs? 'kay, you can pick a maximum of x things from the ghetto and/or x points in OIs.

One competition doesn't care to limit anything? Treat the ghetto as you would stuff from the store.

Seems the most reasonable approach to me.

[Charlotte DeBel]

Rather than deletion, I'd suggest putting OIs in general in a ghetto of their own, rather than deleting them outright, and handle them with OI specific rules.

One competition wants to be OI-free? 'kay, the ghetto is closed.

One competition wants to limit the amount of OIs? 'kay, you can pick a maximum of x things from the ghetto and/or x points in OIs.

One competition doesn't care to limit anything? Treat the ghetto as you would stuff from the store.

Seems the most reasonable approach to me.

I agree to this.

[Charlotte DeBel]

Also, the Order Morphers (at least) shall be removed or treated closer to Sentai canon. Those have no requirements period (unlike divine items) and are pretty broken in the right hands (and horribly imbalanced vs their Chaos counterparts).
My impression from test run of them - "as is" - very powerful and unlike the divine items can be stapled on any average Joe.

[Tami]

Also, the Order Morphers (at least) shall be removed or treated closer to Sentai canon. Those have no requirements period (unlike divine items) and are pretty broken in the right hands (and horribly imbalanced vs their Chaos counterparts).
My impression from test run of them - "as is" - very powerful and unlike the divine items can be stapled on any average Joe.

If we already have canon morphers, I'm not too crazy about these OI versions.

[Tami]

Rather than deletion, I'd suggest putting OIs in general in a ghetto of their own, rather than deleting them outright, and handle them with OI specific rules.

One competition wants to be OI-free? 'kay, the ghetto is closed.

One competition wants to limit the amount of OIs? 'kay, you can pick a maximum of x things from the ghetto and/or x points in OIs.

One competition doesn't care to limit anything? Treat the ghetto as you would stuff from the store.

Seems the most reasonable approach to me.

We could make a separate list for OIs in the Wiki.

[Charlotte DeBel]

We could make a separate list for OIs in the Wiki.

Simplest thing to do, really.

[Nik Hasta]

I also agree with the ghetto solution.

[Darth Drizzle]

If people want to limit or expel OI's thatt's fine but if they are able to be bought then No limit should be placed of how many people can buy.

Karate Kid w/Max Mask, Helm and Key of Hades, and Alucard Vampirism

is just as original and thought out as

Karate Kid w/Fearsome Fist of Fallah, Captain America's Sheild, and Samadahl Ray's Sigil.