College Declines Student's Request to Ban "Persepolis," "Sandman"

[CBR News]

The president of Crafton Hills College has clarified that graphic novels contested by a student will not be banned or removed from the syllabus.


Full article here.

[Spike-X]

Good news. Another overly sheltered nutjob with helicopter parents being told to pull her head in and get back in her box.

This idiot took the course thinking she would be getting "Batman and Robin, not pornography." Of course, she got neither. If she didn't want to read the books herself, that's one thing, but trying to make that decision for everyone else is the height of arrogance.

[dzub]

sandman, persepolis, Y:the last man is too much for her?
give her some garth ennis books!

[Spike-X]

sandman, persepolis, Y:the last man is too much for her?
give her some garth ennis books!

Imagine how much her head will explode once she sees some actual pornography.

[Darrell D.]

Good news. Another overly sheltered nutjob with helicopter parents being told to pull her head in and get back in her box.

This idiot took the course thinking she would be getting "Batman and Robin, not pornography." Of course, she got neither. If she didn't want to read the books herself, that's one thing, but trying to make that decision for everyone else is the height of arrogance.

With this and the demand for 'trigger warnings' for mythology, I can only shake my head at the future. A lot of special snowflakes are going to be in for a big surprise when reality hits them.
I guess they could start up Paetron accounts and hope people donate to them, I guess.

[Crazy Diamond]

With this and the demand for 'trigger warnings' for mythology, I can only shake my head at the future. A lot of special snowflakes are going to be in for a big surprise when reality hits them.
I guess they could start up Paetron accounts and hope people donate to them, I guess.

Do you have an example of trigger warnings for mythology? I've heard of them, but never for that.

These parents have failed their daughter and hopefully from this experience (assuming she wasn't put up to it) will mature her.

[Darrell D.]

Do you have an example of trigger warnings for mythology? I've heard of them, but never for that.

These parents have failed their daughter and hopefully from this experience (assuming she wasn't put up to it) will mature her.

Yeppers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...igger-warning/

In an op-ed in the student newspaper, four Columbia University undergrads have called on the school to implement trigger warnings — alerts about potentially distressing material — even for classics like Greek mythology or Roman poetry.

“Ovid’s ‘Metamorphoses’ is a fixture of Lit Hum, but like so many texts in the Western canon, it contains triggering and offensive material that marginalizes student identities in the classroom,” wrote the four students, who are members of Columbia’s Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board. “These texts, wrought with histories and narratives of exclusion and oppression, can be difficult to read and discuss as a survivor, a person of color, or a student from a low-income background.”

It's completely ridiculous. These kids are going to be begging for internet money and claiming victimhood their whole lives if they don't HTFU.

[JasonTodd428]

Great news. This was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of in my life although sadly there is far too much of this happening in the world. People are offended by the least little thing nowadays. I hope both the parents and the girl learned something from this. I hope the parents learn to let their daughter handle her own life and I hope the daughter learns a bit of maturity.

[kalorama]

Yeppers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...igger-warning/

In an op-ed in the student newspaper, four Columbia University undergrads have called on the school to implement trigger warnings — alerts about potentially distressing material — even for classics like Greek mythology or Roman poetry.

“Ovid’s ‘Metamorphoses’ is a fixture of Lit Hum, but like so many texts in the Western canon, it contains triggering and offensive material that marginalizes student identities in the classroom,” wrote the four students, who are members of Columbia’s Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board. “These texts, wrought with histories and narratives of exclusion and oppression, can be difficult to read and discuss as a survivor, a person of color, or a student from a low-income background.”

It's completely ridiculous. These kids are going to be begging for internet money and claiming victimhood their whole lives if they don't HTFU.

So do they have "trigger warnings" (I hate that phrase) for The Bible? Because that one's chocked full of "histories and narratives of exclusion and oppression."

[DebkoX]

Good, as said by kalorama ^. Trigger warnings, funny I'm reading Neil Gaimans new book on that...

I think Literature should be free and open, if I don't like books about X and Y, gives me no right to have it removed.

[Darrell D.]

Good, as said by kalorama ^. Trigger warnings, funny I'm reading Neil Gaimans new book on that...

I think Literature should be free and open, if I don't like books about X and Y, gives me no right to have it removed.

The ultra left is becoming exactly what the Right has been in the past, to be honest.
"Rock and Roll is problematic!"
"There are bad words in this book, ban it from libraries!"
Hell, there were SJW's or whatever melting down about the violence in the new DOOM game.
Complaints. About violence. In the newest entry of DOOM.

[Darrell D.]

So do they have "trigger warnings" (I hate that phrase) for The Bible? Because that one's chocked full of "histories and narratives of exclusion and oppression."

I'm sure there are some theology majors who left the lecture hall literally shaking.

[Crazy Diamond]

The ultra left is becoming exactly what the Right has been in the past, to be honest.
"Rock and Roll is problematic!"
"There are bad words in this book, ban it from libraries!"
Hell, there were SJW's or whatever melting down about the violence in the new DOOM game.
Complaints. About violence. In the newest entry of DOOM.

The ultra-left (ex. Situationists, Anarcho-communists, etc.) doesn't care about liberal identity politics. These sound like progressives more so. However, there's something to be said about the glorification of violence in popular culture and how it encourages dominant ideologies. It shouldn't be written off as "OH NOES SJWs". Oftentimes what I see is people saying that gaming should be open to criticism that goes beyond pretty graphics 10/10 and the like. The other side wants those discussions to be shut down because it hurts their feelings and angers them that gaming no longer caters to them alone, not that it ever did.

I'm biased because from my experience growing up, it was the bible thumpers who wanted any book they disagreed with banned from schools while expecting those same schools to teach creationism, slavery as a good practice, and the evils of homosexuality. Oh, and no books by anyone who isn't a part of glorified Western Canon.

What I have noticed is a kind of panic where the Left (if you can even say there's a unified Left) is somehow trying to censor freedom of speech. The idea that freedom of speech doesn't exist in a vacuum never seems to come up in these critiques.

[Darrell D.]

Yeah, I see the outrage from both sides on the gaming issues. One side wants to play games the other other wants to know why the Marine in DOOM has to kill the demons, it seems very violent.
You see it when "The Mary Sue" site wants to bring up issues with how an artist draws a female form, and then succeeds in creating enough outrage to get the artist pulled from covers. That's a straight up Right-wing tactic.
Hell, Jerry Seinfeld was targeted by some ultra PC college student on HuffPo, because Seinfeld(and Chris Rock before him) dispensed some real
talk.
HuffPo published the ramblings of some college kid and proved Seinfeld's point. It was fairly impressive.
Life can suck, sometimes, kids. Wrapping yourself in some hugbox is only going to make it worse. Spending a ton of your parent's money (or, god forbid, your own) on degrees in Gender Studies is going to guarantee you will be taking my coffee order for a long while after you graduate.
Have a backup plan, that's what I am saying.

[Crazy Diamond]

Yeah, I see the outrage from both sides on the gaming issues. One side wants to play games the other other wants to know why the Marine in DOOM has to kill the demons, it seems very violent.

One side wants to play games that reinforce their prejudices (ex. Hatred). That same side thinks harassment and caping for Neo-nazis and pedophiles is a-okay. They want gaming to consist of bland, boring, brown-gray-brown games which just do the same crap over and over again. They are ashamed of their own hobby and when others don't share that shame they get real mad. They have to show how "mature" they are, see. Video games are art, but they shouldn't be criticized like all art is because they're just games! Icky outsiders (who were there making and playing these games all along) should just shut up and go away, apparently. Unless if they'll tell them what they want to hear, that is. They did a fine job ensuring that the major game publishers can keep on fleecing their 'loyal customers' though.

You see it when "The Mary Sue" site wants to bring up issues with how an artist draws a female form, and then succeeds in creating enough outrage to get the artist pulled from covers. That's a straight up Right-wing tactic.

If you're talking about the Batgirl cover, the artist chose to take it down and the author agreed with it. Maybe they shouldn't have drawn a variant that had nothing to do with the current tone of the book, a cover that wasn't really drawn for characters like Batman. Or do you mean the Spider-Woman cover? Either way, DC and Marvel want to get more women to read their comics. Maybe thinking about how they show women in their works is a good start.

Hell, Jerry Seinfeld was targeted by some ultra PC college student on HuffPo, because Seinfeld(and Chris Rock before him) dispensed some real
talk.
HuffPo published the ramblings of some college kid and proved Seinfeld's point. It was fairly impressive.

Seinfeld basically said "Oh my DUMB 14 year old daughter doesn't know what she's talking about. Only I do." because she had the gall to tell him not to assume why she doesn't obsess over boys. At leas that's what I remember his complaint being about. Some comedians sure are thin-skinned though. They want to joke about anything and everything, but they don't ever want anyone to argue with them about it. They want a passive audience who laughs when they're told.

Life can suck, sometimes, kids. Wrapping yourself in some hugbox is only going to make it worse. Spending a ton of your parent's money (or, god forbid, your own) on degrees in Gender Studies is going to guarantee you will be taking my coffee order for a long while after you graduate.
Have a backup plan, that's what I am saying.

I was a STEM major. You know what I was making until very recently? Just above minimum wage. Most students these days don't even do Liberal Arts majors and yet a good chunk of them still can't find jobs. The Gender Studies argument is one I keep hearing about online but yet it's not usually what I run into. Also not seeing what's wrong with Gender Studies.