Controversial Batfamily Opinions

[Agent Z]

Those are bad examples to pick.

Dick has worked as a stripper. Not sure if he offered extra's and lets not forget that in the Gotham there's an Adult shop where you can buy Nightwing themed merch and stuff.

However Jason already have an allowance provided by Bruce and Dick currently is a Billionaire.

Selina is a Working Girl not a trust fund kid like the two Wayne boys you mentioned.

When was Dick a stripper?

[JackJustMetMartin]

When was Dick a stripper?

Nightwing #38

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He sneaks into a building by posing as a stripper.

[John Venus]

She's also morphed into a protagonist and I don't know that DC wants to sell her as a former prostitute when they won't even allow Bruce to be a giving lover. lol

More importantly, back when she expressly was a dominatrix, they did everything they could to imply she didn't actually engage in any intercourse. I don't think they ever committed to her being a prostitute full-stop, and frankly I don't care for that origin-- especially knowing what Frank Miller seems to think about women and how to make them strong.

I can't recall anything I read where they didn't say she was a prostitute.

I know some fans who prefer her Pre Crisis origin but no writer has ever tried to remove her Post Crisis origin. They've only worked around it or added to it by revealing that she was also a thief who was also forced into prostitution.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I can't see Selena returning to prostitution herself but she could always become a protector of prostitutes. She helps them have a safer business or find a new life etc. Her book could even deal with issues surrounding legalizing prostitution.

[bretmaverick2]

As a side note, most males / females involved in prostitution are FORCED into that as slaves. Again, I said the majority. It should never be glorified.

[Micael]

As a side note, most males / females involved in prostitution are FORCED into that as slaves. Again, I said the majority. It should never be glorified.

I don't think this is true. Feel free to provide reliable sources that can prove me wrong though.

[dietrich]

I don't think this is true. Feel free to provide reliable sources that can prove me wrong though.

I don't where the notion that most prostitutes are forced into it comes from. That is a generalization and a stereotype that overlooks the many escorts and working girls who do it by choice because it's tax free.

I sincerely hope that a decent number so it of their own free will

[dietrich]

And Selina could make more in a night heisting jewels than a year of sex work.
I just grabbed Jason and Dick for that comparison as they are two characters of equal prominence to Selina.
It doesn't matter who the men are, the point is that people who suggest Selina do sex work aren't also suggesting that the male characters do it too.

I guess steal from others lines up with Selina's selfish nature.
Prostitution is mutually beneficial and like you said selina can make a lot more stealing

[Godlike13]

Um, sex trafficking is a real thing. Argue the merits of prostitution all you want but let’s not pretend its not a thing.

Generally though DC wants to be able to market Catwoman to children and be generally accessible.

[batnbreakfast]

After retiring Joker for a while, one of the biggest cash cows but also many fans are tired of him, DC should make Harley the Clown Princess of Crime. She would become a much bigger threat and more frightening but never rise to the levels of Batgod/Jokergod. Attach Ivy to her or don't just use her in a different role for some time.

[Marik Swift]

As a side note, most males / females involved in prostitution are FORCED into that as slaves. Again, I said the majority. It should never be glorified.

I really don't see how this is relevant?

If I was to say I think prisoners who were unjustly imprisoned should be released, would you reply "well, most males/females in prison deserve to be there".

Nobody said anything about glorification. Or is DC/Marvel now glorifying criminal activity by having super villains?

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

After retiring Joker for a while, one of the biggest cash cows but also many fans are tired of him, DC should make Harley the Clown Princess of Crime. She would become a much bigger threat and more frightening but never rise to the levels of Batgod/Jokergod. Attach Ivy to her or don't just use her in a different role for some time.

I've read arguments for killing him off and splitting his archetypal role between Harley and Punchline.

[Alpha]

Nobody said anything about glorification. Are is DC/Marvel now glorifying criminal activity by having super villains?

Yes actually, but it doesn't really matter for this discussion.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

As a side note, most males / females involved in prostitution are FORCED into that as slaves. Again, I said the majority. It should never be glorified.

Um, sex trafficking is a real thing. Argue the merits of prostitution all you want but let’s not pretend its not a thing.

Generally though DC wants to be able to market Catwoman to children and be generally accessible.

I'm for her becoming a protector of prostitutes. So her freeing victims of trafficking and using her criminal connections is a better way to pitch a solo book.

[JackJustMetMartin]

Bruce's entire history as Batman should be re-written.

A major issue in current continuity is the Robins, something needs to be done to condense their time.

Have Dick join a year or two in, he and Bruce should be over a decade apart in age, ideally 14-16 years. Bruce is still young, Dick is his friend and companion, one of the few he trusts. Have Dick grow up, and move out when Bruce is in his early to mid thirties. Jason joins Bruce to fill that void. Emphasize that Jason is a fantastic Robin, brilliant. But he still dies, and this destroys Bruce.

After Jason's death, have Tim take up another name when he debuts. Him being Robin doesn't make sense while Jason is freshly dead, and with Tim not being Robin you can introduce Damian when Tim's 15/16 and not have Tim's Robin time be cut short. Let Tim branch out, with young Justice, with Steph, with his father. Have him be what he once was, a relatable boy that lived an ordinary life alongside being a hero. Then you can have Damian as the first Robin in years, given to him by Dick when Bruce is MIA.