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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino_Dare-Doll View Post
    No but the point still stands: even if Cass and Steph were included in the N52, it wouldn’t have been good enough. Barbara would still have been torn down and compared to those two for disingenuous reasons such as ‘worth’ and ‘value’ and representation which, ya know? Disabled person here: nobody’s batting an eyelid at able-bodied Oracle?—when Cass and Steph can do the -EXACT- same thing no matter what name they choose, but Barbara is perpetually kept inside without her own due acting as support. If Barbara had a more blended approach then yeah, great, but Tynion’s made it clear that he only wants her to be Batgirl ‘once in a blue moon,’ I.e, never while Cassandra and Steph fail to bring anything new or innovating that Barbara wasn’t doing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    I doubt it people would complain as much if Cass and Steph were part of the New 52 as Black Bat and Spoiler. They would at least have comics to follow, instead of being mad that DC got rid of them in favor of another character.

    Having one of your favorites completely erased sucks, I know the felling since DC did the same with Wally and i hated.
    Bit correction, Black Bat and Batgirl, with all the achievements, character developments, back stories and relationships, including adoption status. The acceptable change is Cass never evil and Steph never tortured/died.

    I can't say for how much they'll complain about Babs if they have all that but Babs is Batgirl, because that never happened.

    About disability, there are people complaining about able-bodied Oracle being both Oracle and Batgirl, starting during the Burnside Era... or whichever book has Babsgirl declare she is both Batgirl and Oracle, and walking out with the Batgirl costume... accusing of DC trying to please everyone but not actually making a commitment to represent the disability, but the numbers have been getting lower and lower throughout the years.

    I don't think they're pleased, just tired and stopped paying attention. I noticed with different characters, some blogs usernames just stop posting what they used to like and started focusing on other fandom/materials.

    Edit: Wait, no. I remember. Fans responded really well to Gail Simone's Batgirl Futures End where all of them are Batgirls plus Tiffany. I don't remember if there's a disability protest, or if it's all euphoria because finally, they're acknowledged together just like the Robins, but it was the best they had in around 3 years.

    So at least, all of them being Batgirl at the same time is acceptable.
    Last edited by Restingvoice; 03-05-2021 at 04:45 AM.

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