Originally Posted by
Tzigone
I agree with you. In her early appearances, Talia was morally gray, at best. She was perfectly fine with Batman being kidnapped and married to her against his will. She was seemingly onboard with the kidnapping of Robin (and the life-threatening "tests" for Bruce involved in rescuing him), she amnesiac-drugged someone, and she participated in framing Batman for murder. Yes, she also saved Batman's life, and saved a boy royal (can't recall exact royal title), so she certainly wasn't all bad. But she was definitely not all that good, either. Ultimately, she sided with Batman for one issue when he father got taken down. Then, aside from one anniversary issue, she disappeared from comics (so far as I can tell), for a decade, as did Ra's (and Bride of a Demon was originally out of continuity, as I understand it). When she shows up again in post-COIE land in the mid-90s, she's working for her father again. She certainly expressed a willingness to kill then (Huntress, at least). I've read that issue. I didn't see her actually kill, I admit, or read the other titles crossed over, so cannot say whether that was a ruse. This is circa Detective Comics 700/Robin #33. Her father also planned to kill 90% of the world's population in Legacy, and was was at least seemingly still loyal to him then, but I don't know if she actually was or was faking, or if she knew the plan, since I haven't read that story. I know the the Hush-era she was on Superman's side, but I have only seen a few crossover appearances there. But I have read all the bronze age appearances of Talia, and she was definitely not created as a primarily admirable or noble character, nor did she have an aversion to killing as a general principle at that time. She was not suddenly "made bad" post 9/11 because of her race.