Controversial Batfamily Opinions

[prepmaster]

I think this line up of Batfam makes sense. Batman is the main guy and the brain of the Batfam, his sidekick Robin being his son, Harley being included for a redemption arc & a wildcard, Catwoman being there for team up with Harley, Dick being the heart of the Batfam while background characters have their own things like Cass being asian & top tier h2h fighter, Duke being metahuman & black, Batwoman being lesbian. Jason is better off not being included in Batfam. Only con is Tim being sent into limbo and Babs isnt gonna go out on the streets to do crimefighting. The lineup has enough diversity to draw in readers from various demographics and doesnt suffer from gender imbalance. A fam consists of about 9 - 10 members where half of the line up are prominant characters.

[The tall man]

At this point the Batfamily should just be dissolved. It serves no purpose and all the individual members would be better off doing their own thing. And no one can claim that one character is getting the spotlight over another. The family was always a dumb idea anyway, and Batman was better off when it was just him, Alfred, Dick and Gordon. End the family and let everyone stand on their own.

[the nomad]

But but Oracle’s like super important...

Not as important as Harley it seems. Harley on her own is tolerable but part of the Batfamily....really. I mean really.

[Agent Z]

DC pretending Oracle isn't important doesn't mean its true.

[Arsenal]

Harley being part of the Batfam would only make sense if there was a period where Selina was the big bat in charge.

[Tzigone]

Harley being part of the Batfam would only make sense if there was a period where Selina was the big bat in charge.

Actually, I've never thought it made sense for Selina to pal around with Harley (or Pam). The whole Gotham City Sirens thing was a no-go for me from the start, because of that.

[the nomad]

DC pretending Oracle isn't important doesn't mean its true.

I hope not, Barbara is one of my fav characters. And her being relegated to the background is one of the reasons why I've been not liking the idea of her becoming Oracle again, especially when's she's got the use of her legs now. SO we'll see.

Harley being part of the Batfam would only make sense if there was a period where Selina was the big bat in charge.

Honestly Harley being part of the Batfamily makes no sense in any form or fashion. There is no scenario in which she can be part of the family, not after all the BS she's done and continues to do. They tried that in Injustice, and honestly it made Batman look like a villain.

And not that you sorta bring it up, is it even okay for Selina to be associated with the Bat-family. I mean technically isn't she a villain. She only plays of the part of an Anti-hero when Batman is around, but she still steals from ppl and occasionally is in involved in murder. She only gets a pass because you she sleeps with him from time to time. I wonder what the other true Bat-family members think of her.

[lemonpeace]

Yes because there's Harley and not Jason, Babs and Tim.

....it's just a cropped image for the DC reddit bruhbruh. we've all see the original image that had the entire Bat-roster (including Barbara, and Jason, and Tim) these are just the ones that were close to Batman on the page; it really ain't that deep. again, there is plenty of art where members are left out of the picture. it just isn't controversial that the ones who are and will always be in 80% of the Batfamily pictures aren't in this one picture to me.

people are way too sensitive about Harley and it's really concerning.

[Godlike13]

....it's just a cropped image for the DC reddit bruhbruh. we've all see the original image that had the entire Bat-roster (including Barbara, and Jason, and Tim) these are just the ones that were close to Batman on the page; it really ain't that deep. again, there is plenty of art where members are left out of the picture. it just isn't controversial that the ones who are and will always be in 80% of the Batfamily pictures aren't in this one picture to me.

people are way too sensitive about Harley and it's really concerning.

Did not know this, image is a non issue in that case.

[lemonpeace]

[Drako]

....it's just a cropped image for the DC reddit bruhbruh. we've all see the original image that had the entire Bat-roster (including Barbara, and Jason, and Tim) these are just the ones that were close to Batman on the page; it really ain't that deep. again, there is plenty of art where members are left out of the picture. it just isn't controversial that the ones who are and will always be in 80% of the Batfamily pictures aren't in this one picture to me.

people are way too sensitive about Harley and it's really concerning.

Yeah, pretty much.

[prepmaster]

....it's just a cropped image for the DC reddit bruhbruh. we've all see the original image that had the entire Bat-roster (including Barbara, and Jason, and Tim) these are just the ones that were close to Batman on the page; it really ain't that deep. again, there is plenty of art where members are left out of the picture. it just isn't controversial that the ones who are and will always be in 80% of the Batfamily pictures aren't in this one picture to me.

people are way too sensitive about Harley and it's really concerning.

Still the position of where these characters are placed show their importance. Its not a random art at all. How can someone draw something that it can be cropped so nicely? You can clearly see who are the background characters and who are not. Harley is to the right of Batman.

[lemonpeace]

Still the position of where these characters are placed show their importance. Its not a random art at all. How can someone draw something that it can be cropped so nicely? You can clearly see who are the background characters and who are not. Harley is to the right of Batman.

DC has an arbitrary character hierarchy = water wet. it's an ensemble shot, it truly does not matter

[the nomad]

....it's just a cropped image for the DC reddit bruhbruh. we've all see the original image that had the entire Bat-roster (including Barbara, and Jason, and Tim) these are just the ones that were close to Batman on the page; it really ain't that deep. again, there is plenty of art where members are left out of the picture. it just isn't controversial that the ones who are and will always be in 80% of the Batfamily pictures aren't in this one picture to me.

people are way too sensitive about Harley and it's really concerning.

Huh. I didn't know that about the image either. But still though, there's being sensitive and then there's the sheer exhaustion of overexposure.

[lemonpeace]

Huh. I didn't know that about the image either. But still though, there's being sensitive and then there's the sheer exhaustion of overexposure.

there are people tired of the overexposure of Batman, I'm one of them, yet people don't jump at the chance to piss and moan everytime he appears. so you can miss me with that "sheer exhaustion" noise, respectfully. she doesn't bother me but I'm nowhere close to a fan, however, I recognize that CLEARLY Harley is popular enough to warrant the exposure to DC. just like people justify Batman's overexposure. you can not like a character, that's fine, but people just need to get over the Harley whingeing at this point. it's trite.