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    I don't really think this is controversial but...

    I think there should be an entire 100+ issue run of nothing by Dick and Damian as partners. They really are the best Batman and Robin duo and it got cut all too soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    It could be interesting to see what would happen if The Commissioner were dead for a year or so, kind of like what’s going on with Alfred.
    Haven't they already done enough to Gordon over the years?

    And is Alfred alive again yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Haven't they already done enough to Gordon over the years?

    And is Alfred alive again yet?
    Yes. They have. Poor Gordon is one of the most traumatized people in the DC universe, yet also one of the most ethical, moral, and loving person in said universe. Possibly because he's the only character shown who regularly uses therapy to address his issues and constantly examine his motivations and actions instead of just assuming he's right. Even his affairs were examined for the impact he had on others, in particular his daughter.

    Bruce would be a dramatically different person if he was written with the adult morality of Gordon. I would say ethics, but Bruce is completely lacking in ethics.

    Alfred is still dead. Damian is planning on raising him from the dead in the next Robin issue.

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    Gordon is super Lawful Good. Bruce written as Gordon would probably be the Batman who's deputized by the police in the 60s.

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    I like the Devin Grayson run
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandnewfan View Post
    I don't really think this is controversial but...

    I think there should be an entire 100+ issue run of nothing by Dick and Damian as partners. They really are the best Batman and Robin duo and it got cut all too soon.
    If it's controversial, it shouldn't be.

    Put a good writer on that, I'd read it in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandnewfan View Post
    I don't really think this is controversial but...

    I think there should be an entire 100+ issue run of nothing by Dick and Damian as partners. They really are the best Batman and Robin duo and it got cut all too soon.
    That's a popular opinion not a controversial one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felipe Silveira View Post
    I like the Devin Grayson run
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    I liked it up until One Year Later.
    "It's not my Kate." - Greg Rucka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    The original Robin suit works when paired with the classic blue and gray Batman costumes, but when you try to say that Batman never had lighter more colorful costumes, it sticks out.
    Even with the blue and gray (another of my controversial opinions here, Batman should never have a blue costume) the bare legs and pixie boots don't work and look ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    If it's controversial, it shouldn't be.

    Put a good writer on that, I'd read it in a heartbeat.
    In fact nothing really can stop them doing it since we have Omniverse and different lines, even collaboration partners like Webtoon. They just need someone good who wants to do it and have a good pitch. Start as a mini and expand it to a series if it sells.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felipe Silveira View Post
    I like the Devin Grayson run
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    In general or specifically surrounding their relationship? ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    In general or specifically surrounding their relationship? ^^
    General.
    Deastroke and Rose are great here.
    Unfortunately for Rose, Teen Titans happened (2003 run).
    It took a long time, but Priest managed to get the character back and out of Robins orbit, all for Williamson to play her again in this hole. Because you know, female characters in DC just seem to serve male characters most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice-named View Post
    I liked it up until One Year Later.
    Year One was written by Chuck Dixon, so....
    "Has Sariel summoned you here, Azrael? Have you come to witness the miracle of your brethren arriving on Earth?"

    "I WILL MIX THE ASHES OF YOUR BONES WITH SALT AND USE THEM TO ENSURE THE EARTH THE TEMPLARS TILLED NEVER BEARS FRUIT AGAIN!"

    "*sigh* I hoped it was for the miracle."

    Dan Watters' Azrael was incredible, a constant delight and perhaps too good for this world (but not the Forth). For the love of St. Dumas, DC, give us more!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandnewfan View Post
    I don't really think this is controversial but...

    I think there should be an entire 100+ issue run of nothing by Dick and Damian as partners. They really are the best Batman and Robin duo and it got cut all too soon.
    Nah, we're all good.

    Batman and Robin is mostly like Homer's Poochie suggestions - Whenever Bruce is offscreen all the characters should be asking "where's Bruce?" The whole thing is a massive build up to Bruce's return and he just rocks up at the end and sorts everything out in, like, an issue or two.

    Dying while crying for his mother to save him did more for Damian's character than that the entire rest of the run. At least that showed him as more than one of the three generic archetypes he'd embodied up to that point.
    "Has Sariel summoned you here, Azrael? Have you come to witness the miracle of your brethren arriving on Earth?"

    "I WILL MIX THE ASHES OF YOUR BONES WITH SALT AND USE THEM TO ENSURE THE EARTH THE TEMPLARS TILLED NEVER BEARS FRUIT AGAIN!"

    "*sigh* I hoped it was for the miracle."

    Dan Watters' Azrael was incredible, a constant delight and perhaps too good for this world (but not the Forth). For the love of St. Dumas, DC, give us more!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by exile001 View Post
    Year One was written by Chuck Dixon, so....
    One Year Later begins in Nightwing 118, for Bruce Jones. You are confused with Nightwing Year One, from Nightwing 101 to Nightwing 106 by Chuck Dixon.

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    Oracle is more than just information gathering and hacking.

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