Controversial Batfamily Opinions

[Jackalope89]

Nightwing belongs in the Justice League.

Gotham can be taken care of by Oracle, Tim, and Cassie.

Maybe Damian on the Titans?

Retire Batwoman, Spoiler, Huntress, Signal... Let Red Hood die.

And let Bruce be happy with Selina somewhere else.

Agree on the first.
Second one is iffy, as Gotham is a big city.
Damian already has his own Teen Titans team.
Just plain disagree with this line.
Agree on the last. Both Bruce and Selina are practically geriatrics now. They need to be focusing more on their nest eggs and raising Helena Wayne. And for Bruce to be less emotionally constipated.


Anyway; not so much "unpopular", but Cass should be, I don't necessarily want to say adopted by Bruce again, but should be an official member of the family either way, and interact more with the main Bat Kids. Duke too.

[The tall man]

Yes, Grim Knight and BMWL will indeed be screwed when dealing with heroes who have no problem killing.

Oh really! You honestly think Jason or Kate can take out the BMWL and the Grim Knight? Well maybe with some massive jobbing on the part of the latter. They can't even handle "regular" Batman if he's written correctly and not holding back. But family fans would be in an uproar if that happened. All things being even and given what we've seen the both of them being capable of doing, the family cannot survive an assault by the BMWL and the Grim Knight. It would be slaughter.

[Agent Z]

Oh really! You honestly think Jason or Kate can take out the BMWL and the Grim Knight? Well maybe with some massive jobbing on the part of the latter. They can't even handle "regular" Batman if he's written correctly and not holding back. But family fans would be in an uproar if that happened. All things being even and given what we've seen the both of them being capable of doing, the family cannot survive an assault by the BMWL and the Grim Knight. It would be slaughter.

Jason had the Joker dead to rights in Under The Red Hood and Grim Knight got taken down by his universe's James Gordon, a non-superhero cop with no superpowers or any of the Batfamily's training. Most of the family has dealt with evil Batmen in some form or another. I think they'll do fine.

You mean to tell me fans don't like when their favorite characters get killed off? What a shock! Meanwhile, I can hardly think of fandom like Bruce's that throws a fit every time someone so much as wags their finger at him.

[Aahz]

You honestly think Jason or Kate can take out the BMWL and the Grim Knight?

Jason imo potentially, he has really a lot of training and is supposed to be natural fighter, that's just often ignored by the writers (and he can of course play dirty).
With Kate it is hard to say, based on the comics it is really hard to judge how good she is in comparison to the rest of the family.

[Caivu]

Oh really! You honestly think Jason or Kate can take out the BMWL and the Grim Knight?

With guns? Uh... yes. BMWL and GK are just dudes. Kate and Jason are both excellent marksmen, and guns are the proverbial equalizer.

With Kate it is hard to say, based on the comics it is really hard to judge how good she is in comparison to the rest of the family.

Not really. Maybe in terms of direct comparisons, but that doesn't make things that difficult.

[Godlike13]

Except they are not just dudes, they’re Batmen. With Batman equivalent skill mastery and dedication.

[Caivu]

Except they are not just dude, they’re Batmen. With Batman equivalent skill mastery and dedication.

Not the same thing as superpowers.

[Godlike13]

For all intents and purposes it is. Guns aren't even an equalizer against regular batman.

[Aahz]

For all intents and purposes it is. Guns aren't even an equalizer against regular batman.

Guns are pretty useless in Batman comics.

[Arsenal]

Batman #55 showed that guns work pretty well against a Bat when you use them properly/ remove the plot armor.

[Pohzee]

If Batman can beat Kate and Jason without guns (which he can) then he can beat them while still holding a gun. He doesn’t need to use them if they aren’t effective. He’s Batman.

[Gurz]

Don't you know your Batman, Batman hates guns. Guns killed his parents in his head. He despises them. I like Punisher and even i'm respectful to Batman's wish. Stop forcing a gun in Batman's hands.

[The tall man]

Except they are not just dudes, they’re Batmen. With Batman equivalent skill mastery and dedication.

Exactly! Bruce (any version of him) has the family beat when it comes to strategy, tactics and preparation. He is always several steps ahead of his opponents and has contingencies and alternate plans in place. You think any Batman going after the family won't have knowledge of their strengths and weaknesses, as well as a detailed plan of attack to kill them all? Some may not like it because nowadays its cool to hate on Batman but a Batman written properly will beat the family. And two evil Batmen with no emotional feelings towards the family will destroy them.

[Aahz]

Batman #55 showed that guns work pretty well against a Bat when you use them properly/ remove the plot armor.

Not really other wise Dick would be dead. The same goes btw. for Penguin and Clayface.

In general most of Jasons opponets seem to be completely imune to bullets, therefore I'm actually glad he finally dropped them since his last redesign.

[Arsenal]

Not really other wise Dick would be dead. The same goes btw. for Penguin and Clayface.

In general most of Jasons opponets seem to be completely imune to bullets, therefore I'm actually glad he finally dropped them since his last redesign.

The only reason Dick survived is because Bruce was there to take care of him (and KGBeast didn't fire a second shot). I kind of doubt in this scenario that somebody will be there to save Grim Knight or B-Man who Laughs should somebody shoot them in the head.