Controversial Batfamily Opinions

[lemonpeace]

The four core/former Robins should NOT all look like mini Bruce Waynes, the fact that they look like Bruce in various phases of his life is lazy and dumb. Damian has an excuse (even though i have my own minuscule issues with his design) but Dick, Jason, and Tim have zero excuse and belay a underlying lack of creativity either on the part of artist or, more likely, editorial.

[Arsenal]

I’m not sure what to do about Tim or Dick but Jason is an easy fix. Just give him his random strip of white hair back which instantly make him stand out. Or make him Hispanic since apparently that was a thing some people want(ed).

[dropkickjake]

Ironically Damian is the one who is often drawn the most differently, sometimes being drawn to look half Asian/middle eastern.

[Aahz]

I’m not sure what to do about Tim or Dick but Jason is an easy fix. Just give him his random strip of white hair back which instantly make him stand out. Or make him Hispanic since apparently that was a thing some people want(ed).

And Jason should not look like a "mini" version, he is supposed to be only 2 inch shorter than Bruce (and 15 pounds heavier) I find it wired that he is often completely dwarfed by batman when they appear on the same page.

When we are at it: the artists should put a little more though in the evolution of the Robin costume, and have the look fit better to the wearer.
It makes imo no sense, that Damian costume to incorporate parts of the classic costume, if that costume didn't exist in the new 52, and for Jason to have costume that is brighter and less protective than the one Dick had.

[dropkickjake]

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[9th.]

The four core/former Robins should NOT all look like mini Bruce Waynes, the fact that they look like Bruce in various phases of his life is lazy and dumb. Damian has an excuse (even though i have my own minuscule issues with his design) but Dick, Jason, and Tim have zero excuse and belay a underlying lack of creativity either on the part of artist or, more likely, editorial.

I never got why they all looked the same, isn't Jason atleast supposed to have red hair or something?

[Aahz]

I never got why they all looked the same, isn't Jason atleast supposed to have red hair or something?

Only the pre crisis version.

[byrd156]

The four core/former Robins should NOT all look like mini Bruce Waynes, the fact that they look like Bruce in various phases of his life is lazy and dumb. Damian has an excuse (even though i have my own minuscule issues with his design) but Dick, Jason, and Tim have zero excuse and belay a underlying lack of creativity either on the part of artist or, more likely, editorial.

I mean Dick has more of a reason than most. He's supposed to be a reflection of Bruce right down to losing his parents to crime in a similar fashion at the same age. Looking similar to Bruce I think is important for Dick.

[phantom1592]

And Jason should not look like a "mini" version, he is supposed to be only 2 inch shorter than Bruce (and 15 pounds heavier) I find it wired that he is often completely dwarfed by batman when they appear on the same page.

When we are at it: the artists should put a little more though in the evolution of the Robin costume, and have the look fit better to the wearer.
It makes imo no sense, that Damian costume to incorporate parts of the classic costume, if that costume didn't exist in the new 52, and for Jason to have costume that is brighter and less protective than the one Dick had.

I don't see why Jason should be so big. He should still be young. A few younger than Dick and just a couple older than Tim. 19 to EARLY 20's at best.


As for the costumes... I REALLY want them to stop retconning the costumes. If they don't like the old costumes... grow out of them, but pretending they never happened while still sort of kind of maybe referencing them is too confusing... for their own creators. They don't know whehterh they're coming or going.

The four core/former Robins should NOT all look like mini Bruce Waynes, the fact that they look like Bruce in various phases of his life is lazy and dumb. Damian has an excuse (even though i have my own minuscule issues with his design) but Dick, Jason, and Tim have zero excuse and belay a underlying lack of creativity either on the part of artist or, more likely, editorial.

It would be editorial. DC's biggest problem is their 'legacy' concept. They never care as much for the character in the costume as the costume itself. Those are the things on lunchboxes and action figures... so while Dick or Wally may be wearing the costume... it still looks like 'Flash and Batman'. Same with Robin. Editorial didn't care about individual secret identities.. just that they can have a Robin teamed with Batman and that they look identifiable. Therefore the Dark haired boy in a domino mask. It's 'iconic'.

[Arsenal]

I don't see why Jason should be so big. He should still be young. A few younger than Dick and just a couple older than Tim. 19 to EARLY 20's at best.

You can still be that size at age 19 to early 20's.

If anything, when they are all fully grown, Dick should be the shortest of them all since he's the acrobat of the family.

[Jackalope89]

You can still be that size at age 19 to early 20's.

If anything, when they are all fully grown, Dick should be the shortest of them all since he's the acrobat of the family.

Agreed. Age doesn't mean too much when it comes to whose bigger when the people in question are adults. Even blood-related brothers that I've known have had an older brother shorter than the younger brother. And since the two come from completely different biological backgrounds, that isn't even a hangup.

[9th.]

Jason's supposed to be 19!?!?!?!, I keep forgetting how young these characters are supposed to be. He's like 24-25 in my mind, while Dick is 27, and Tim is 18-19.

[Frontier]

I mean Dick has more of a reason than most. He's supposed to be a reflection of Bruce right down to losing his parents to crime in a similar fashion at the same age. Looking similar to Bruce I think is important for Dick.

I also always just assumed the Robins all looking alike is a kind of deliberate visual consistency...

[byrd156]

I also always just assumed the Robins all looking alike is a kind of deliberate visual consistency...

That too. I like the idea of Batman and Robin always look a specific way that way to the rest of the world they could be the same person.

[Aahz]

I don't see why Jason should be so big. He should still be young. A few younger than Dick and just a couple older than Tim. 19 to EARLY 20's at best.

At that age you have pretty much reached your adult hight (and 6'0'' is not that tall). And it is his offical hight.

I mean Dick has more of a reason than most. He's supposed to be a reflection of Bruce right down to losing his parents to crime in a similar fashion at the same age. Looking similar to Bruce I think is important for Dick.

Than you could also make the argument that (post crisis) Jason was to remind Bruce on Dick.