Miles Morales Spider Man Appreciation

**frizb** · 05-02-2018, 05:08 PM

One thing that leaves me feeling optimistic about Miles' future is that Miles still feels like Miles in other books. I haven't really noticed another writer completely butcher him.

As far as the Cable plot, I'd have him show up in the first panel of the next series and have Miles politely say, "No thank you" to his offer and move on.

**Inversed** · 05-02-2018, 05:49 PM

I will say I think it is a nice idea for Bendis to make his final Spider-Man issue one that reflects something very personal that happened, I really love that very end, with spoilers:

Miles ditching the Cable situation to go see a movie with Ganke, which they have been talking about doing since the beginning of this run.

end of spoilers, and the 2 page letter was incredibly sweet too.

But overall as an ending to this already extremely lackluster arc, it isn't really satisfying. He obviously didn't want to do a "definitive" ending because he knows other writers will be continuing on with the story ideas he set up and didn't get to resolve, and I understand. But I think this arc, as well as his Return Of Tony Stark one in Iron Man really exemplifies Bendis' biggest issues as a writer, having both too much and not enough plot.

He has so many characters he wants to work with, and so many plot points he wants to throw in, but due to the decompression, and the need for manufactured suspense, you go through up to 7 issues feeling like nothing happened. It is disappointing, but I'm hoping the next writers can step up and continue to build on what he's done and do some really great stuff with these truly great characters.

And I will say this, the art has remained consistently great, I wouldn't mind seeing Bazahlda come back to do art for the new book.

**PSJ** · 05-02-2018, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by frizb

One thing that leaves me feeling optimistic about Miles' future is that Miles still feels like Miles in other books. I haven't really noticed another writer completely butcher him.

As far as the Cable plot, I'd have him show up in the first panel of the next series and have Miles politely say, "No thank you" to his offer and move on.

That is because Jim zub did his research on miles he knows all his history..

**kurenai24** · 05-03-2018, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonick

No word on when the official trailer comes, but I hope it's soon so there can be a proper amount of excitement can buildup.
And nice to see you in this thread again.

Hopefully we get something during SDCC ...I would like an official trailer during the summer.

And thanks for the welcome back.

Originally Posted by Dragonick

I saw this earlier and thought it was cute so I figured I'd share it.

Aww Lana.

**Digifiend** · 05-03-2018, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by PSJ

That is because Jim zub did his research on miles he knows all his history..

Yeah, I do wonder, has he read all of Miles's Spider-Man, Kamala's Ms Marvel, the Vision series that introduced Viv, ANAD Avengers and Unstoppable Wasp for Nadia, Bendis's Iron Man for Riri, all of Sam Alexander's Nova comics, and Totally Awesome Hulk? New Warriors' last volume (which had Sam), All-New Ultimates (Miles), and Incredible Hercules and Mighty Avengers (for Amadeus) if you want to be really thorough. Kamala, Sam and Miles have all had something in the region of 50 solo issues. It's a lot of archive to binge!

**Inversed** · 05-03-2018, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Digifiend

Yeah, I do wonder, has he read all of Miles's Spider-Man, Kamala's Ms Marvel, the Vision series that introduced Viv, ANAD Avengers and Unstoppable Wasp for Nadia, Bendis's Iron Man for Riri, all of Sam Alexander's Nova comics, and Totally Awesome Hulk? New Warriors' last volume (which had Sam), All-New Ultimates (Miles), and Incredible Hercules and Mighty Avengers (for Amadeus) if you want to be really thorough. Kamala, Sam and Miles have all had something in the region of 50 solo issues. It's a lot of archive to binge!

He probably didn't read EVERYTHING, obviously, but based how what he's said, and based on the first issue, I can tell he's done his research and knows his stuff. It's small, but referencing stuff like Nadia's Agents Of GIRL from her series, or Ironheart's social anxiety from her book that doesn't appear in any others show that he's doing more than just writing the characters however he wants.

That way he won't get any more issues like, say, thinking Miles and Gwen are a couple, or that nobody believes in alternate dimensions, OR that Ms. Marvel has no idea who he's talking about.....sorry that's a big screwup I still can't get over lol.

**Scott Taylor** · 05-03-2018, 11:21 AM

Disappointing end. A crossover tale was always going to be a bad way, though. Miles peaked years ago, honestly.

**Cmbmool** · 05-03-2018, 12:33 PM

Honestly I would have liked it if Carol Danvers and Miles have a LONG OVERDUE talk. Maybe having Bendis cleaning up the mess he created with Civil War 2.

**MindofShadow** · 05-03-2018, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Taylor

Miles peaked years ago, honestly.

im beginning to think the same.

Fingers crossed new writer changes the trajectory.

**Bossace** · 05-03-2018, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Taylor

Disappointing end. A crossover tale was always going to be a bad way, though. Miles peaked years ago, honestly.

Being in the ultimate universe allowed Bendis so much more freedom. Was it the the move to the 616, Bendis getting stale and out of ideas or both? Early Miles was so much more fun to read in my opinion

**jyamen** · 05-03-2018, 01:10 PM

yeah, sadly I agree. and I loved this book the first few years. Now this book feels like it has no real rudder to steer it and make it truly original from all the other spider books (to be fair, that could be said of most of them)

**frizb** · 05-03-2018, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by jyamen

yeah, sadly I agree. and I loved this book the first few years. Now this book feels like it has no real rudder to steer it and make it truly original from all the other spider books (to be fair, that could be said of most of them)

I still liked the book post-Secret Wars, but it really bogged down with the long Spider-Gwen dimension hopping crossover and the last arc that went on forever. Take those 2 long arcs out and it was still pretty solid imo. Would love to see Ganke get involved more with the rest of the Hero community somehow. Could be fun!

**Inversed** · 05-03-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cmbmool

Honestly I would have liked it if Carol Danvers and Miles have a LONG OVERDUE talk. Maybe having Bendis cleaning up the mess he created with Civil War 2.

Seems like he's fixing the mess of Civil War II by "pretending it never happened". Over in Iron Man is waving away Tony's coma problem by saying it's just because he messed with his own body structure and its all his fault, not because, you know, Carol beat him near to death!

**The Other SpiderMan** · 05-03-2018, 02:28 PM

I don't think Miles has peaked yet. Especially since he's now beginning to break out of comics and into more mainstream forms of entertainment. I do think Bendis overstayed his welcome with him though. After his second run in the Ultimate universe it was pretty clear Bendis didn't have a solid direction for Miles anymore and should've walked away after moving him to 616.

**SpiderX** · 05-05-2018, 03:59 AM

Well now that the current run of Miles is over let’s start speculating or at least dreaming of who we would like to see on the series once it returns. I’m struggling to come up with a writer at the moment but I would like the team of Russell Dauterman and Matt Wilson to come over for art. Their work in Mighty Thor was amazing!

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