Julian Keller: Hellion Apprecation 2018

[The Big G]

Well it looks like XMB Emma sold well...lets hope Leah gets more work and she can do her Emma & Julian story

[Star_Jammer]

Are Daredevil and Toph Beifong really considered blind even though they use radar sense for the same effect?

Daredevil and Toph still can't see colors, and specific other details that people who aren't blind can see.

You didn't answer the second part of my question: how is Julian effectively disabled?

[Beetle]

You could make the argument he could get those same sensations through his TK. I would assume there's SOME sort of tactile feedback when he's manipulating something with his powers...

And I just realized this discussion could get VERY blue in a hurry.

Tactile feedback is so much more than pleasure. There's pain, heat, cold, general numbness.

I'd argue that there has to be less tactile feedback with his telekinesis. It's the same power he uses to create forcefields, the same "material", if he felt every single thing that hit his TK field he'd get knocked out of battle even more often than he does. If he felt anything at all it would have to be at a lesser degree, otherwise he would have total sensory overload.

[Beetle]

Daredevil and Toph still can't see colors, and specific other details that people who aren't blind can see.

You didn't answer the second part of my question: how is Julian effectively disabled?

The same way an amputee with a prosthetic is effectively disabled.

Aside from the loss of sensation in his robotic hands that his telekinesis just couldn't mimic (not to the same degree at least). His robotic hands are a constant and ugly reminder, to himself and to others, of what he's lost. He's hidden them with gloves. They've been damaged and he's had to replace them with makeshift and cruder versions.
There's also phantom limb pain, and PTSD from the battle that burned his hands off has caused him to lose control and go overboard when attacking Omega Sentinel.

[Tycon]

The problem we've discussed before is that Marvel hasn't really done anything (positive, at least) with it in the first place. The most we've really gotten out of it was some cheap angst to toss on top of the rest of the rest of the dog-kicking Julian went through after Second Coming.

That doesn't mean you just throw away the entire story potential. Besides, there aren't too many physically disabled heroes, so what good would removing one do?

Not really a disability since he actually has bionic hands that he controls telekinetically to look "cool".

Don't see how that doesn't make him disabled. Misty Knight has an arm that essentially functions as a regular arm, Daredevil has something that functions as his sight, Wiz Kid has a mutation that functions as his mobility etc.

Is he really considered disabled, though? He pretty much unconsciously uses his telekinesis for the same effect, yeah?

Yes. Prosthetics do the same practical stuff as the real deal, bur that doesnt invalidate his disability.

[Star_Jammer]

The same way an amputee with a prosthetic is effectively disabled.

There's a lot of things prosthetics can't do currently, because we don't have the technology for it yet. It's very different from Julian, and not a very fair comparison.

Can't really argue with the loss of sensation bits, though.

[The Big G]

We also gotta remember that Julian is a sub

the boy loves pain

[DragonsChi]

The same way an amputee with a prosthetic is effectively disabled.

Aside from the loss of sensation in his robotic hands that his telekinesis just couldn't mimic (not to the same degree at least). His robotic hands are a constant and ugly reminder, to himself and to others, of what he's lost. He's hidden them with gloves. They've been damaged and he's had to replace them with makeshift and cruder versions.
There's also phantom limb pain, and PTSD from the battle that burned his hands off has caused him to lose control and go overboard when attacking Omega Sentinel.

Tactile feedback is so much more than pleasure. There's pain, heat, cold, general numbness.

I'd argue that there has to be less tactile feedback with his telekinesis. It's the same power he uses to create forcefields, the same "material", if he felt every single thing that hit his TK field he'd get knocked out of battle even more often than he does. If he felt anything at all it would have to be at a lesser degree, otherwise he would have total sensory overload.

Bingo.

There is no way TK could be a full on replacement for the actual touch. If anything what he actually "feels" would mostly be psychological in nature. Such as if he is lifting a pan full of boiling water with his TK his brain acknowledges that the pan should be hot so it mimic or gives a semblance of it to the user. But even that can only go so far since it's literally just in that persons head.

[Fokken]

We also gotta remember that Julian is a sub

the boy loves pain

This just slayed me. ha ha.

[Tycon]

We also gotta remember that Julian is a sub

the boy loves pain

Armor, Surge, X-23, Prodigy...........who hasn't beat up or seriously maimed this poor guy? Any takers on who's gonna punch Julian at the end of Disassembled?

[The Big G]

This just slayed me. ha ha.

And Jules want's "Mistress-23" to slay him lol

Armor, Surge, X-23, Prodigy...........who hasn't beat up or seriously maimed this poor guy? Any takers on who's gonna punch Julian at the end of Disassembled?

Laura's never actually hit Julian has she?

He's been stabbed by Hellverine and Deathstrike, bitten by a Predator X. His most recent love intrests mutant powers involve admantium claws and razor sharp teeth. Not to mention Emma's was his mentor/mom/adult role model so that's gotta lead to something.

Julian is dare i say a power bottom?

[bladeofdarkness]

Armor, Surge, X-23, Prodigy...........who hasn't beat up or seriously maimed this poor guy? Any takers on who's gonna punch Julian at the end of Disassembled?

To farther this point, Armor is probably the one with the LEAST amount of interactions with him, and he asked her out witnin around 2 minutes of her breaking his nose.
So he's probably got a thing for that.

[The Big G]

To farther this point, Armor is probably the one with the LEAST amount of interactions with him, and he asked her out witnin around 2 minutes of her breaking his nose.
So he's probably got a thing for that.

Exactly.

He didn't hit on her till she caused him bodily harm....

Boy's a masochist

[The Big G]

SInce Marvel won't give us content...I'm forced to make shitty Hellion memes....

[WhiteQueenEmmaFrost]

Is he the only male telekinetic?

I can't think of another one.