Favorite Bat-Family member

[MajorHoy]

NOTE: Thread originally began in June 2015.
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With 219 people having voted,

* Dick Grayson = 67 votes
* Jason Todd = 37 votes
* Bruce Wayne = 35 votes
* Tim Drake = 20 votes
* Cassandra Cain = 14 votes
* Barbara Gordon = 12 votes
* Selina Kyle = 9 votes
* Stephanie Brown = 9 votes
* Alfred Pennyworth = 5 votes
* Kate Kane = 5 votes
* Helena Bertinelli = 4 votes

All other choices have less than four votes.

[MajorHoy]

Here's the OP:

I recently saw a claim that on the CBR forum, Bruce's supporting cast is more like than Bruce himself. Well, I want to see if that's true. Vote for your favorite Bat Family character, and we'll see whether or not Bruce comes out on top

And at present, Bruce still falls waaaaaaaay behind Dick in popularity. (Jason also has a slight lead over Bruce.)

[Pohzee]

I wonder what it is about this forum that makes our demographics weird like that

[Tzigone]

I wonder what it is about this forum that makes our demographics weird like that

I expect a good bit of is that there are good number of fans here that like older comics (indeed, I specifically joined because of that - I'd previously been looking for a place to discuss original NTT, which I'd just read). Batman today is very different than the Batman of 30 years ago. A lot people (me included) who like the older Batman don't like the newer one. Also, to be fair, I love old-school Dick Grayson, and find the one of the last 20 years not nearly as good a character. Also like older versions of Tim and Steph better than 2000s-and-after versions. Though I've always liked Dick best, from other media (only started reading DC about 2015, but started with older material), I admit. Anyway, fans of older material don't like newer Batman. And Dick is still there in the older material and present when Batman was emotionally healthier and got to grow up and into his own in that era, when the field was less crowded in general.

[godisawesome]

There’s also the way a character having an actual solo can help their demographics on the board - Jason had a team/solo book for most of the decade, as has Babs (who was still a major role character even before that as Oracle). That’s going to reinforce and encourage those fanbases to be involved, while Tim, Cass, and Steph fans had different hay days.

[The tall man]

Voted for Bruce but honestly I don't think that he should even be an option in the poll. Batman stands above and apart from the family so I don't consider him a batfamily member. He is is own thing, wholly separate from the rest. And once again I think that the so-called family needs to be dissolved, let these characters go their own way and do their own thing.

[The no face guy]

As much as I love Bruce, Dick, Jason ect, at the end of the day Batman is just not complete without his mansion, batcave, and handy British butler...so I chose Alfred.

[lemonpeace]

my favorite isn't on this poll. what's wild is Duke had just gotten his first regular appearance in a series when this poll went up; he'd just been cameos up to that point.

[Light of Justice]

my favorite isn't on this poll. what's wild is Duke had just gotten his first regular appearance in a series when this poll went up; he'd just been cameos up to that point.

I don't think he was considered Bat-family on that point.

[Stars & Stripes]

I don't think he was considered Bat-family on that point.

Though Harper not being on the poll is odd, as she was already Bluebird when the poll was made (the flashforward in Batman 28 was released in 2014, and Batman Eternal 41 showing Bluebird’s actual first mission was released earlier in 2015).

[lemonpeace]

I don't think he was considered Bat-family at that point.

he wouldn't have been, like I said he was had just gotten a regular slot the same year (I think same month) this poll started.

[paulojrmam]

I'm surprised Bruce isn't the most voted (although I didn't vote for him), considering he's the main member and he's the best-seller. But I bet if 2 choices could be chosen he'd come out on top, cause probably most times when he's not the #1 choice he's the #2 choice.

[Tzigone]

I'm surprised Bruce isn't the most voted (although I didn't vote for him), considering he's the main member and he's the best-seller. But I bet if 2 choices could be chosen he'd come out on top, cause probably most times when he's not the #1 choice he's the #2 choice.

He's not even #3 for me.

[MajorHoy]

I'm surprised Bruce isn't the most voted (although I didn't vote for him), considering he's the main member and he's the best-seller. But I bet if 2 choices could be chosen he'd come out on top, cause probably most times when he's not the #1 choice he's the #2 choice.

Depends on how long people have been reading the character.

Bruce himself has been . . . less than enjoyable . . . in much of the 21st century.

[godisawesome]

I think Bruce suffers from the “snap-back” effect more than the other characters, even when their attempts to grow up have... issues.

Bruce is more dependent on “style” of characterization for making him appear dynamic.

Dick can actually claim to have “grown” into something else for just about every decade in the modern era: from Robin as a sidekick to Robin in college as his own man to Robin as Titans leader to Nightwing as Titan’s leader to Nightwing as a solo hero to Batman to Agent Grayson.