Secret Wars #4 spoiler

[autbey]

Marvel isn't doing anything with FF because somebody else owns the movie rights. I read that on the internet, so I'm pretty sure it's true.

You mean there is a Fantastic Four cartoon/video game/action figures/appearances on t-shirts?

[swerve]

You mean there is a Fantastic Four cartoon/video game/action figures/appearances on t-shirts?

Or breakfast cereal! I need my Doom-o's.

[Scorponok]

K, this issue was great. I love the way Strange handled himself. He was loyal to Doom when he thought it was the best option, but when it comes right down to it, he is still loyal to the right people. I like that.

Especially when Strange knows that the survivors won't conform to Doom's rule willingly. And leave it to Doom to rub into Reed's face that he was able make Battleworld while, Reed & the Illumaniti couldn't stop the incursions.

[MouserGrey]

Anyone else notice the cover of SW 5? Half of Dooms face shattering with images of SW 2 Beyonders in each fragment.

[Biclopcicle]

K, this issue was great. I love the way Strange handled himself. He was loyal to Doom when he thought it was the best option, but when it comes right down to it, he is still loyal to the right people. I like that.

Subtitle of SW# 4: How Stephen got back his Soul

[CrimsonEchidna]

I hope Cyclops is dead for good. He sounded like a mix of Magneto at his worst and "Burn-Everything-To-Create-Something-New" Dark Phoenix...The guy doesn't learn; after what the Phoenix did to Jean, after what it did to him, he still let it corrupt him.

I guess Marvel will promote Teenclops as the main Cyclops now...

You do know that Cyclops have already been confirmed to be in Uncanny Inhumans right?

[emac1790]

You do know that Cyclops have already been confirmed to be in Uncanny Inhumans right?

To many, the complex is real.

[Biclopcicle]

Tin god with delusions of grandeur? Dumb Doom? Blasphemy! Victor Von Doom is God Emperor...you better recognize!

I think up until he saw Reed he had been doing a reasonable job of being god (regardless of others' interpretations of his actions in the minis). You could say I am strongly aligned with Strange. He drank the cool aid until he saw Doom go into fetal position at the sight of Richards.

[Voulge]

Issue was very good.

So happy Doom is getting the spotlight.

First of all Doom had so many practice with godlike powers that he really has the hang off it.
Beyonder powers, Silver Surfer, a watcher, some cosmic cubes, 2 guantlets probably some more, and now this.
This guy knows how it works.

But how strong is he now ?
Not all knowing gives big dent in your power level.
Spider-man in a what If knew when ppl were thinking of him just becuase of his spider sense.

-So no unlimted senses in any way.
Smell,touch,seeing,telepathy,energy readings,hearing and many more.

Is this something he did to himself, or just really a limit ?
Are there limits to his other powers as well ?
Are powers different in white space, that a Beyonder is very powerfull in our universe doesn't mean it is the same in white space ass well ?

So still many questions i think in white space powerleverls differ.

[Knives]

I'm still not sure Cyclops death and even though this happened the Phoenix still there and I'm sure it will have a key role in this story.

You can not kill an idea.

[Double 0]

I think there's a panel a lot of people have overlooked.

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This one. Strange was talking to T'Challa about the things he had seen and never revealed. Pretty sure he just did a knowledge transfer to T'Challa, because he KNEW he was screwed for saving them.


To me, that's way more important than whether or not the Phoenix is alive or not (since it's already known it pales in comparison to God Doom as of right now).

[Scorponok]

When it comes to Reed, Doom has inferiority complex despite being all-powerful right now. To where he loves to tell Reed that "I win, you lose". But deep down, he knows he'll never be better than him. Not to mention Thanos & Scott mocked him for being a wannabe god. Even Strange gave him a harsh does of reality, to where Doom knows that he's right.

[Knives]

It's not the PF itself that's in question, It's the host.

in mutopia the have a Phoenix Egg (E for Extinction #1 SW Tie-in)

Xtinction Agenda Rachael seems to be imbued with the PF

A-Force we have Jean in PF costume.

Copies created by Doom !?

* If the case should be much weaker than the original and limited.

[emac1790]

When it comes to Reed, Doom has inferiority complex despite being all-powerful right now. To where he loves to tell Reed that "I win, you lose". But deep down, he knows he'll never be better than him. Not to mention Thanos & Scott mocked him for being a wannabe god. Even Strange gave him a harsh does of reality, to where Doom knows that he's right.

Thanos knows all about being God. He's been God at least three times.

[MindofShadow]

I think there's a panel a lot of people have overlooked.

ThisPanel.jpg

This one. Strange was talking to T'Challa about the things he had seen and never revealed. Pretty sure he just did a knowledge transfer to T'Challa, because he KNEW he was screwed for saving them.


To me, that's way more important than whether or not the Phoenix is alive or not (since it's already know that it pales in comparison to God Doom as of right now).

SHHHH stop talking about the actual story, lets just argue about the dead phoenix for 15 pages instead