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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool View Post
    The problem with that is that I like the character Richard Rider. I would read a book were Rich was not a Nova.
    You don't have to demote Sam for that to happen or vice versa.

    Plus, it needs to be said... Sam is not the same type of Nova as Rich.
    His father was part of a Black Ops division.

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    Sam Nova is finally making sense under Duggan...but I'd rather have a corps book with a larger cast and see Sam as Kid Nova in New Warriors..

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    Quote Originally Posted by THANOSRULES View Post
    Sam Nova is finally making sense under Duggan...but I'd rather have a corps book with a larger cast and see Sam as Kid Nova in New Warriors..
    Rich could have the Corps book and Sam could keep the Nova title.
    Seems like a win-win IMO.

    Rich leading the Nova Corps
    Sam coming into his own and being a Nova all his own.
    There's also no need to call him Kid Nova since it's a Corps.

    That just seems like a silly way to appease the people who go for the one true Nova thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THANOSRULES View Post
    Sam Nova is finally making sense under Duggan...but I'd rather have a corps book with a larger cast and see Sam as Kid Nova in New Warriors..
    That would be awesome if they put Sam in the red tank top kid nova outfit

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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool View Post
    That would be awesome if they put Sam in the red tank top kid nova outfit
    Why would they need to though?
    He wears the outfit of a different part of the corps.

    He doesn't need to be demoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    Why would they need to though?
    He wears the outfit of a different part of the corps.

    He doesn't need to be demoted.
    When was the Kid Nova costume an official corps costume? And he doesn't "belong" to any part of the corps. He is just borrowing the power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool View Post
    When was the Kid Nova costume an official corps costume? And he doesn't "belong" to any part of the corps. He is just borrowing the power.
    Never said otherwise.

    And borrowing? Really?
    He's essentially a torch bearer.
    Like Kyle Rayner was in Green Lantern for a decade.

    He's keeping the flame alive, he's not keeping the seat warm.
    I get that you prefer Rich, as do I... but I also like Sam.

    Like it or not he is a Nova.
    There's no need to diminish him because you might favor someone else.
    It's pretty messed up to those who love Sam.

    There's room for more than one Nova.

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    I'm not diminishing him at all. But I would not call him a member of a corps when he doesn't even know what that means. I'm sure that in this upcoming arc that he will discover what it is exactly to be a member of the corps. Then I would say that he is a torch bearer. That's why I say that he is borrowing it. I have nothing against the character at all, besides him being a little annoying under Loeb and Wells, and I think that I can come to love him. But as of now I don't see him as that bearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool View Post
    I'm not diminishing him at all. But I would not call him a member of a corps when he doesn't even know what that means. I'm sure that in this upcoming arc that he will discover what it is exactly to be a member of the corps. Then I would say that he is a torch bearer. That's why I say that he is borrowing it. I have nothing against the character at all, besides him being a little annoying under Loeb and Wells, and I think that I can come to love him. But as of now I don't see him as that bearer.
    Eh, he's Marvels Nova for all intents and purposes.
    Heck he's even in one of their cartoons.

    He's pretty much keeping the Nova name alive while Rich is MIA or Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    Eh, he's Marvels Nova for all intents and purposes.
    Heck he's even in one of their cartoons.

    He's pretty much keeping the Nova name alive while Rich is MIA or Dead.
    Yes he uses the name Nova but he's not a member of the Corps. Back in the day Rich was the last Nova but he was still inducted into the corps by Rhomann Dey and given the full authority of a Nova Centurion, while Sam is using unauthorized equipment that was stolen by a deserter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevel8182 View Post
    Yes he uses the name Nova but he's not a member of the Corps. Back in the day Rich was the last Nova but he was still inducted into the corps by Rhomann Dey and given the full authority of a Nova Centurion, while Sam is using unauthorized equipment that was stolen by a deserter.
    The Corps is gone and he is the last Nova... at least for now.
    Despite the technicalities and details, he is still Nova.

    If it's good enough for the Avengers, New Warriors, GotG and Beta Ray Bill then it's good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevel8182 View Post
    Yes he uses the name Nova but he's not a member of the Corps. Back in the day Rich was the last Nova but he was still inducted into the corps by Rhomann Dey and given the full authority of a Nova Centurion, while Sam is using unauthorized equipment that was stolen by a deserter.
    Thank you for explaining that better than I was


    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    The Corps is gone and he is the last Nova... at least for now.
    Despite the technicalities and details, he is still Nova.

    If it's good enough for the Avengers, New Warriors, GotG and Beta Ray Bill then it's good enough for me.
    I wasn't and I dont think that Trevel was trying to convey that he isn't Nova just that he is not part of the corps or the Black Nova Corps. Thus why I said borrowed power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    The Corps is gone and he is the last Nova... at least for now.
    Despite the technicalities and details, he is still Nova.

    If it's good enough for the Avengers, New Warriors, GotG and Beta Ray Bill then it's good enough for me.
    These guys might disagree with that assessment. They may be depowered but they have gone through basic training and have been inducted into the corps given the full authority by the Nova Prime and the World Mind the authority of a Nova

    If your a force sensitive and you find a lightsaber on the corpse of a dead Jedi, does that make Jedi?





    What authority do the New Warriors, Avengers, and Guardians have to who or who is not a Nova they don't know anything and the ones who do have gone mute and just accept Sam as he looks an not what he is. I consider Sam a member of the Corps(look at the first page) because hopefully, sooner or later he'll actual be inducted as Earths Nova, but in the Marvel Universe he's not a Nova. He's a superhero who illegally uses the stolen equipment and the Name of a Nova.
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