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    Well that was...a bit of a let down in my opinion. I wrote a full review here with a ton of pictures if anyone is interested.

    I really really wanted to like this. I loved the original event and wanted this to be super cool, but instead it just came off as very boring. With 9 pages recapping what happened and the remaining issue basically just two men sitting around bickering it was a mega bore. The art is nice but still...

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    The book opens with an explanation of what the Super Hero Registration Act was. We see Cap, Spidey, Storm, and others fighting the fight we remember. After a bunch of that we cut to Black Panther and Dagger trying to infiltrate Iron Man's prison and release everyone. Unfortunately Tony set up a self destruct. Rut row. As it's about to blow Black Panther stays behind to "buy as much time as I can" (how does he do that?) and she flees. The Cap side runs to Cloak to teleport away. He almost manages it but the blast from the prison goes through him and takes out a major city. Cloak, Mar Gargan, Tigra, T'Challa, Matt Murdock, Janet Van Dyne and Doc Samson all die. Oh and 15 million other people.

    We get a couple panels showing what happened next. What looks like a Skrull invasion which was stopped by Ghost Rider and Punisher and the Green Goblin takes over the White House...then promptly loses it.

    We are then introduced to The Blue which is the East coast side of America and The Iron which is the West coast. They are divided down the middle. Ms. Marvel stops a young girl who is flying for the first time and she is admitted into Tony's schools for superheroes. Meanwhile we get a glimpse of a kid using his powers on the Blue side and he's told he can use them however he likes. Just make sure to use them for good or "The Punishers" will be after him.

    From there we are introduced to The Divide, a bridge built from the ruins of St. Louis. Miriam Sharpe is brokering a negotiation between Cap and Tony. Lots of talk here about making a peace. Cap shows up with Spider-Man who has a suit that pops out wings. Tony shows up with She Hulk and they are apparently in a relationship. Before they enter the complex Tony lets Peter hang with MJ and his daughter. She Hulk stands by too.

    They bicker for what seems like forever and then a shot is fired. A sniper takes out Sharpe. The shot comes from The Blue side, but Cap points out the bullet was meant for him.

    The issue ends with Cap saying Tony will never let the war end so he'll end it for him.
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    So what did you guys think? Am I off base in disliking it?
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    For craft and other reasons (Cloak AND Black Panther? REALLY?), I really didn't like this and won't be continuing it.

    I did like the brief mentions of Secret Invasion and Dark Reign. Missing WWHulk though.
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    That's how it goes, yo.^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double 0 View Post
    For craft and other reasons (Cloak AND Black Panther? REALLY?), I really didn't like this and won't be continuing it.

    I did like the brief mentions of Secret Invasion and Dark Reign. Missing Planet Hulk though.
    Good I'm not the only one pretty let down by this.
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    Systemic? ^^?
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    First issue was meant to set the tone at least hopefully that's what soule is going for.

    I'll let the second issue decide if i'll continue.

    For a first issue though it was pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariel0079 View Post
    First issue was meant to set the tone at least hopefully that's what soule is going for.

    I'll let the second issue decide if i'll continue.

    For a first issue though it was pretty bad.
    If that is a setting of the tone then we are in for one boring ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double 0 View Post
    For craft and other reasons (Cloak AND Black Panther? REALLY?), I really didn't like this and won't be continuing it.

    I did like the brief mentions of Secret Invasion and Dark Reign. Missing Planet Hulk though.
    That's WORLD WAR HULK, Planet Hulk preceded it.

    Still I am surprised with how quickly Norman lost his political power here.

    Also you do need a reason or two for Stark to be an enemy for Wakanda, then here it is.

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    So if I understand this correctly, the same old troupe of black males being killed off, and rendered a non-factor in a major plot line ??? Not too surprising at all! Btw marvel thinks for helping to save money for Spiderman and Ultimates. This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

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    No X-Men! !!
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    Most Xmen books don't have their own version of Avengers eithers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    So if I understand this correctly, the same old troupe of black males being killed off, and rendered a non-factor in a major plot line ??? Not too surprising at all! Btw marvel thinks for helping to save money for Spiderman and Ultimates. This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
    "Oh what the heck, I'll laugh anyway. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!"

    In all seriousness, I kind of liked the book. A little too info-dumpish at the start, but once it got going the book started showing real promise. I'm definitely going to give this a second issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    So if I understand this correctly, the same old troupe of black males being killed off, and rendered a non-factor in a major plot line ??? Not too surprising at all! Btw marvel thinks for helping to save money for Spiderman and Ultimates. This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
    They're not a non-factor.

    Black Panther was the one who set the bomb to explode. He told Captain America's side that Stark had set the bomb to detonate, then told Maria Hill that Captain America ordered the bomb to be detonated. He was the one responsible for killing 15 million people and perpetuating the war.

    In other words, the main black male wasn't a non-factor. He was the villain.

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    ^^That's even worse than having him killed off if that is the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teste View Post
    They're not a non-factor.

    Black Panther was the one who set the bomb to explode. He told Captain America's side that Stark had set the bomb to detonate, then told Maria Hill that Captain America ordered the bomb to be detonated. He was the one responsible for killing 15 million people and perpetuating the war.

    In other words, the main black male wasn't a non-factor. He was the villain.
    How do you get Panther set the bomb, when he was in the process of getting into the system and only then noticed the self-destruct light up? And where did you get Panther called Hill to say Cap ordered the bomb to detonate? That wasn't in my book.

    In my book, Panther sacrificed himself to get the heroes out of the Negative Zone, and Hill was making stuff up, or collaborating with a 3rd person. How that could be misconstrued to be T'Challa, I don't know.
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