View Poll Results: Who is your favourite 616 Marvel LGBT character?

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  • ANOLE [Victor Borkowski]

    26 3.55%
  • BLING! [Roxanne ‘Roxy’ Washington]

    12 1.64%
  • CULLEN BLOODSTONE

    20 2.73%
  • DAKEN AKIHIRO

    42 5.74%
  • HULKLING [Theodore ‘Teddy’ Altman]

    35 4.78%
  • KARMA [Xi’an Coy Mahn]

    39 5.33%
  • KAROLINA DEAN

    43 5.87%
  • LOKI LAUFEYSON, God of Mischief

    62 8.47%
  • MOONDRAGON [Heather Douglas]

    38 5.19%
  • MYSTIQUE [Raven Darkholme]

    107 14.62%
  • NORTHSTAR [Jean-Paul Beaubier]

    59 8.06%
  • PRODIGY [David Alleyne]

    21 2.87%
  • RICTOR [Julio Esteban Ricter]

    35 4.78%
  • SHATTERSTAR [Gaveedra-7]

    45 6.15%
  • WICCAN [William ‘Billy’ Kaplan], the Demiurge

    148 20.22%
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  1. #14311
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    Quote Originally Posted by nj06 View Post
    I've never seen them. Who are they and where are they from? What's their story?
    They were supporting characters in Thompson's Hawkeye series, a pair of siblings who are friends of Kate Bishop who live in LA. They became members of the West Coast Avengers

    Turns out that that their mother was a Dora Milaje who abandoned her post and raised them in the States. She died and left them vibranium rings, when they put on the rings it somehow activated their powers.

    Fuse has Absorbing Man type powers, he wears piercings so that he is always in contact with some type of metal so he can always activate his powers. He is dating Kate, but it turns out that he's bisexual.

    Alloy didn't fully activate her powers until recently, her contact with vibranium felt more permanent so she was afraid to complete the process until it felt necessary. She has completely bonded with vibranium, it's like a second skin of armor for her. She can manipulate it to create blades that extend out of her in any direction. She is currently dating America Chavez
    Last edited by Beetle; 06-24-2019 at 06:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    They were supporting characters in Thompson's Hawkeye series, a pair of siblings who are friends of Kate Bishop who live in LA. They became members of the West Coast Avengers

    Turns out that that their mother was a Dora Milaje who abandoned her post and raised them in the States. She died and left them vibranium rings, when they put on the rings it somehow activated their powers.

    Fuse has Absorbing Man type powers, he wears piercings so that he is always in contact with some type of metal so he can always activate his powers. He is dating Kate, but it turns out that he's bisexual.

    Alloy didn't fully activate her powers until recently, her contact with vibranium felt more permanent so she was afraid to complete the process until it felt necessary. She has completely bonded with vibranium, it's like a second skin of armor for her. She can manipulate it to create blades that extend out of her in any direction. She is currently dating America Chavez
    Thanks for the info! I'm gonna have to go ahead and read up on these two.
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    EXCITING!!! I didn't realize she'd selected or been assigned a super name. Perhaps I missed that in the finale? Oh well. Alloy sounds rad.

    I really hope they aren't forgotten as time goes on too. They're delightful characters and I really dig America & Alloy as a couple, in particular.

    On a semi-sour note: WHY WHY WHY must people be so GD vile? I was on twitter and Marvel posted a list of some LGBTQ characters and --although SOME of the facts in said list weren't 100% accurate -- it was still nice to see/read/view but OF COURSE the butthurt brigade has to drag their heinous hatred all up in the comments like the WEAK little shits that they are.
    For real though: If you're arguing these characters are garbage and that they are unnecessary and that they don't have any appeal -- WHAT are you even doing? If YOU don't see their appeal, WHY are you arguing against their existence?? I mean, these people must lose their GD minds in a book store or library -- just RAGING and SEETHING over sections they aren't interested in, right? Just openly cursing at the Travel section or the Finance books or friggin Calendar stands. I imagine they deliberately redirect themselves in a grocery store to occupy the vegetarian or vegan aisles to take solid 2 minutes to mutter under their breath about how stupid tofu is, and then punch the cooler door.

    Anyways.
    I realize that wasn't UP BEAT or POSITIVE -- but I didn't have an outlet so I came here.
    Forgive my angsty rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fokken View Post
    I imagine they deliberately redirect themselves in a grocery store to occupy the vegetarian or vegan aisles to take solid 2 minutes to mutter under their breath about how stupid tofu is, and then punch the cooler door.
    Doesn't everyone?

    Seriously though, I laughed.

    And yeah, haters gonna hate. If you're gonna call a character garbage, at least stick to one that *is* garbage, like Glob Herman, who is literally something you might find clogging up your drain. :>

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    Thompson might use them herself somewhere, but I suspect they sadly will be forgotten.

    The curse of the teen hero, and even more so the gay teen hero.

    Books have to sell, and sadly, the community who actually buy (and dont just support thorough social media and piracy) is not big on buying the overt LGBT characters. I think it's getting better that people will accept a new character who isnt fully straight, but the minute their sexuality become a focal point, out comes the hate and tired old 'shoving it down throat' comments.

    It's such a balancing act for writers - and there is still a nasty toxic fan base that are all to happy to rip on anyone who might be enjoying a book or character they arent, and that can put off new readers and tank a book - so they have to try and tell the story they want, promote and show what they want.....but also consider that if they want the book to last, people still just arent there when it comes to full acceptance.

    And that doesnt even touch the other side of the coin, when they try and do something and either get it wrong by making a genuine mistake or not going as far as some fans want, so they get attacked by the liberal side of the community they hoped to appeal to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post


    Fuse and Alloy. I hope these two aren't forgotten about.
    Same here. Ramona was my favorite of America's recent love interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    They were supporting characters in Thompson's Hawkeye series, a pair of siblings who are friends of Kate Bishop who live in LA. They became members of the West Coast Avengers

    Turns out that that their mother was a Dora Milaje who abandoned her post and raised them in the States. She died and left them vibranium rings, when they put on the rings it somehow activated their powers.

    Fuse has Absorbing Man type powers, he wears piercings so that he is always in contact with some type of metal so he can always activate his powers. He is dating Kate, but it turns out that he's bisexual.

    Alloy didn't fully activate her powers until recently, her contact with vibranium felt more permanent so she was afraid to complete the process until it felt necessary. She has completely bonded with vibranium, it's like a second skin of armor for her. She can manipulate it to create blades that extend out of her in any direction. She is currently dating America Chavez

    Why couldn't I have found this out while my store was having a 40% off everything sale???

    Now I have to find that series.

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    Hercules and Valkyrie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post


    Hercules and Valkyrie.
    Ahhh I love them. I miss Brunnhilde already. I know she's in the Jane Foster title in some capacity, guiding her from Valhalla or something but it's not the same. And Herc needs to be in an ongoing ASAP. A bummer they ditched this design and tried to put him and the other Olympians in a New Gods scenario.

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    Sina Grace talking about his experience working on Iceman and for Marvel...... and it sounds rough:

    https://sinagrace.tumblr.com/post/18...s-time-i-spoke

    Can't say I'm surprised honestly.
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    Writing for the Big Two is hard, writing for the X-Office is even harder, and then writing a book with a LGBTQ focus on top of that? Yeah, that does not sound fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    Sina Grace talking about his experience working on Iceman and for Marvel...... and it sounds rough:

    https://sinagrace.tumblr.com/post/18...s-time-i-spoke

    Can't say I'm surprised honestly.
    That is some serious bullshit coming from Marvel. I mean, that whole part about how they limited the way he could promote the book and then got mad at him for making headlines is just, WTF??? That is some self-sabotaging right there. No wonder the book never stood a chance. It was not so much about not having an audience that could keep it going (like Sina said, it DID sell in trades), but much more about Marvel simply not supporting the book and the creative team enough. I wondered why The Unstoppable Wasp got to come back as an ongoing while Iceman only got a mini, and well, I guess this answers it. This truly shines a light on why it's so hard for us to see queer-led solo books on Marvel, and I am so glad Sina came forward with this, 'cause nothing ever changes if companies don't get called out on that kind of stuff.

    Also, I'm glad he posted some of the receipts about the vile harassment he went through at the hands of comicsgaters. I was not aware of the controversy of Richard C. Meyer saying gay men like Sina should be killed off in a war. Not that I had any previous respect for that guy, but that just cements my utter disgust for him and his ilk.

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    Giant Man and Living Lightning. Miguel needs a new costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    That is some serious bullshit coming from Marvel. I mean, that whole part about how they limited the way he could promote the book and then got mad at him for making headlines is just, WTF??? That is some self-sabotaging right there. No wonder the book never stood a chance. It was not so much about not having an audience that could keep it going (like Sina said, it DID sell in trades), but much more about Marvel simply not supporting the book and the creative team enough. I wondered why The Unstoppable Wasp got to come back as an ongoing while Iceman only got a mini, and well, I guess this answers it. This truly shines a light on why it's so hard for us to see queer-led solo books on Marvel, and I am so glad Sina came forward with this, 'cause nothing ever changes if companies don't get called out on that kind of stuff.

    Also, I'm glad he posted some of the receipts about the vile harassment he went through at the hands of comicsgaters. I was not aware of the controversy of Richard C. Meyer saying gay men like Sina should be killed off in a war. Not that I had any previous respect for that guy, but that just cements my utter disgust for him and his ilk.
    With Marvel it really seems like a lot of these diverse titles get thrown out there with no support so Marvel can say "Well, we tried and nobody bought it!" the next time the subject of the lack of diversity comes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    With Marvel it really seems like a lot of these diverse titles get thrown out there with no support so Marvel can say "Well, we tried and nobody bought it!" the next time the subject of the lack of diversity comes up.
    They do the same thing with A LOT of titles. Teen mutant teams over on the X-side immediately come to mind along with any LGBT titles or ones that are female led with some exceptions.

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