View Poll Results: Who is your favourite 616 Marvel LGBT character?

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  • ANOLE [Victor Borkowski]

    27 3.53%
  • BLING! [Roxanne ‘Roxy’ Washington]

    12 1.57%
  • CULLEN BLOODSTONE

    20 2.62%
  • DAKEN AKIHIRO

    44 5.76%
  • HULKLING [Theodore ‘Teddy’ Altman]

    41 5.37%
  • KARMA [Xi’an Coy Mahn]

    41 5.37%
  • KAROLINA DEAN

    43 5.63%
  • LOKI LAUFEYSON, God of Mischief

    66 8.64%
  • MOONDRAGON [Heather Douglas]

    39 5.10%
  • MYSTIQUE [Raven Darkholme]

    112 14.66%
  • NORTHSTAR [Jean-Paul Beaubier]

    60 7.85%
  • PRODIGY [David Alleyne]

    21 2.75%
  • RICTOR [Julio Esteban Ricter]

    38 4.97%
  • SHATTERSTAR [Gaveedra-7]

    47 6.15%
  • WICCAN [William ‘Billy’ Kaplan], the Demiurge

    153 20.03%
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMagnetism View Post
    Ok, so there's a rumour that Marvel/Disney is planning a "Secret Invasion" tv series for Disney+ that will involve S.W.O.R.D. and the Kree and Skrulls that will lead into Captain Marvel 2 the same way WandaVision is leading into Doctor Strange 2.

    If this rumour is true and that rumour about Teddy showing up in WandaVision as a refugee under S.W.O.R.D.'s protection is also true, then I'm guessing that this Secret Invasion show is where Billy and Teddy's relationship is going to develop. Because if it is true that WandaVision is going to have both Billy and Teddy in it then I'm pretty sure that they're just going to meet towards the end, because this show is obviously going to focus on Wanda and Vision and it sounds like anything involving Billy as a teen and the possibility of introducing Teddy will be at the end of the season.
    I guess we'll have to wait see which other show they're producing for Disney+ alongside the alleged Secret Invasion, 'cause Bob Iger indicated we have two other shows in productions right now, and if one of them turn out to be a Young Avengers production like many have been speculated for a while, then I'd say that's obviously more likely to feature a romance between Billy and Teddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMagnetism View Post
    Ok, so there's a rumour that Marvel/Disney is planning a "Secret Invasion" tv series for Disney+ that will involve S.W.O.R.D. and the Kree and Skrulls that will lead into Captain Marvel 2 the same way WandaVision is leading into Doctor Strange 2.

    If this rumour is true and that rumour about Teddy showing up in WandaVision as a refugee under S.W.O.R.D.'s protection is also true, then I'm guessing that this Secret Invasion show is where Billy and Teddy's relationship is going to develop. Because if it is true that WandaVision is going to have both Billy and Teddy in it then I'm pretty sure that they're just going to meet towards the end, because this show is obviously going to focus on Wanda and Vision and it sounds like anything involving Billy as a teen and the possibility of introducing Teddy will be at the end of the season.
    I am really curious to see how they even do Billy and Tommy and their connection to Wanda and Vision. That's a messy black hole in the comics, I cannot see them wanting to open that can of worms for the MCU.

    I think they might jettison Wanda as their mother to streamline and keep things simple. It's not an important part of their story, and her delusions or whatever we're going to see in WandaVision and Strange 2 can absolutely exist separate to any use of Billy and Tommy, and Teddy beyond that.

    I do think people may need to dial back the expectation for the gay relationship between Billy and Teddy for WandaVision - that looks much more like a crazy Wanda set up story than anything else. If they are doing Secret Invasion, then introducing Teddy there and then launching from that Young Avengers, with Billy then appearing in that and losing the Wanda connection seems a lot more likely for the MCU. They like simple for the MCU. Streamlined and easily accessible for the mainstream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    I am really curious to see how they even do Billy and Tommy and their connection to Wanda and Vision. That's a messy black hole in the comics, I cannot see them wanting to open that can of worms for the MCU.

    I think they might jettison Wanda as their mother to streamline and keep things simple. It's not an important part of their story, and her delusions or whatever we're going to see in WandaVision and Strange 2 can absolutely exist separate to any use of Billy and Tommy, and Teddy beyond that.

    I do think people may need to dial back the expectation for the gay relationship between Billy and Teddy for WandaVision - that looks much more like a crazy Wanda set up story than anything else. If they are doing Secret Invasion, then introducing Teddy there and then launching from that Young Avengers, with Billy then appearing in that and losing the Wanda connection seems a lot more likely for the MCU. They like simple for the MCU. Streamlined and easily accessible for the mainstream.
    The spot teaser for WandaVision shows her pregnant and then two cribs and pacifiers... Not to mention leaked/rumored casting calls and auditions for them as older kids(around 8 iirc). I don't know how things are gonna work considering she's on a made-up reality, but they're definetely not just having them not be her children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    The spot teaser for WandaVision shows her pregnant and then two cribs and pacifiers... Not to mention leaked/rumored casting calls and auditions for them as older kids(around 8 iirc). I don't know how things are gonna work considering she's on a made-up reality, but they're definetely not just having them not be her children.
    They just split the characters. Her children and Billy/Tommy just become different characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    I guess we'll have to wait see which other show they're producing for Disney+ alongside the alleged Secret Invasion, 'cause Bob Iger indicated we have two other shows in productions right now, and if one of them turn out to be a Young Avengers production like many have been speculated for a while, then I'd say that's obviously more likely to feature a romance between Billy and Teddy.
    I also assumed that they were more likely building-up to a Young Avengers Disney+ show but apparently multiple sources have mentioned this plan for a Secret Invasion show, while there hasn't been any concrete news or rumours pointing to a Young Avengers show coming soon. So it might be possible that this Secret Invasion show comes out first.

    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    They just split the characters. Her children and Billy/Tommy just become different characters.
    I doubt they're gonna' do that though. WandaVision has been filming for a while now and there's been rumours of the twins being Billy and Tommy on the show, I definitely think we would have heard something by now if they were planning on changing it so that Wanda's kids aren't Billy and Tommy.

    Considering that WandaVision is helping to set up Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and with the multiverse allegedly going to be a big theme going forward in the MCU I think it's quite possible that teenage Billy and Tommy are going to be from an alternate universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    They just split the characters. Her children and Billy/Tommy just become different characters.
    Yeah let's introduce two twin boys with essentially the same powers as Wanda and Pietro, after Wanda also had twins on her show, but say they have nothing to do with her, cause that won't seem weird at all... Especially when anyone can google and see that in the comics they are indeed her resurrected kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Yeah let's introduce two twin boys with essentially the same powers as Wanda and Pietro, after Wanda also had twins on her show, but say they have nothing to do with her, cause that won't seem weird at all... Especially when anyone can google and see that in the comics they are indeed her resurrected kids.
    But that is you saying that as a fan. The MCU has shyed away from anything too complex or too steeped in continuity and just streamlined it.

    I could see then streamlining her twins to just being part of that story and having these twins (assuming they even bother with Tommy, they could just have Billy) be nothing more than kids with powers, maybe sharing an origin with Wanda and Pietro through Infinity Gem magic...and that be the extent of the connection.

    I'm not saying they should or I'd like it, I'm just saying I could see them doing it to make it simple for MCU only fans who have no interest in the comics or researching characters.
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    Actor claims Marvel shot a gay kiss for The Eternals.
    http://www.newnownext.com/haaz-sleim...power/02/2020/

    Now whether or not that actually stays in the movie...

    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    They just split the characters. Her children and Billy/Tommy just become different characters.
    They're almost certainly just gonna use reality warping or something to justify the kids being teenagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    https://twitter.com/LucianoVecchio/s...07571208032257

    Not sure what exactly that means, but it sounds like Luciano Vecchio is working on some queer-themed story for Marvel Voices #1.
    He just posted a teaser


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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Actor claims Marvel shot a gay kiss for The Eternals.
    http://www.newnownext.com/haaz-sleim...power/02/2020/

    Now whether or not that actually stays in the movie...
    Oh wow. Not only did he confirm what we suspected, that he's playing the gay character's husband, but also that Brian Tyree Henry's Phastos is indeed the gay character. Marvel still hasn't even confirmed that, and Brian still hasn't officially come out of the closet yet either. It figures that they would wait so long that another actor let it slip in an interview.

    And yeah, it'll be interesting to see how much of this scene makes it into international cuts of the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Nice. When was the last time Striker showed up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Nice. When was the last time Striker showed up?
    Just in the background, he showed up at the end of Bendis' run on Miles as part of the secret new SHIELD thing.
    Speaking...getting killed off on Battleworld in that stupid zombie book.

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    not a bad word about the seminal bloodstone story in my house
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorrek VIII
    What if the Kree and Skrull quarantined in the same rooms together? Aha ha, just kidding... unless...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    not a bad word about the seminal bloodstone story in my house
    Its a shame that Elsa seems to have lost the magic hand she got in that mini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    I don't like those earrings on Billy.
    They look too ostentatious for him. Too big and too bright.
    #EmmaWasRight

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