View Poll Results: Who is your favourite 616 Marvel LGBT character?

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  • ANOLE [Victor Borkowski]

    26 3.53%
  • BLING! [Roxanne ‘Roxy’ Washington]

    12 1.63%
  • CULLEN BLOODSTONE

    20 2.71%
  • DAKEN AKIHIRO

    42 5.70%
  • HULKLING [Theodore ‘Teddy’ Altman]

    35 4.75%
  • KARMA [Xi’an Coy Mahn]

    40 5.43%
  • KAROLINA DEAN

    43 5.83%
  • LOKI LAUFEYSON, God of Mischief

    62 8.41%
  • MOONDRAGON [Heather Douglas]

    38 5.16%
  • MYSTIQUE [Raven Darkholme]

    108 14.65%
  • NORTHSTAR [Jean-Paul Beaubier]

    60 8.14%
  • PRODIGY [David Alleyne]

    21 2.85%
  • RICTOR [Julio Esteban Ricter]

    36 4.88%
  • SHATTERSTAR [Gaveedra-7]

    46 6.24%
  • WICCAN [William ‘Billy’ Kaplan], the Demiurge

    148 20.08%
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    Marvel Studios and Marvel Comics have been pretty certifiably out of sync with each other for a long while now. They don't even answer to the same people in the corporate structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H-E-D View Post
    Marvel Studios and Marvel Comics have been pretty certifiably out of sync with each other for a long while now. They don't even answer to the same people in the corporate structure.
    And given who the comic side does answer to, is anyone really surprised by Sina's comments?
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    Comics are such a niche industry now that I'm actually wondering how much, if any shits Disney actually has about what goes on. For the most part I think Disney only cares about the company as far as IP generation for more profitable mediums (movies, TV shows, video games, toys, ect.) are concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    Like I said just above, I don't think Marvel Studios and Marvel Comics are on the same page. Depending on how the gay representation on Eternals goes, I won't be surprised if we have gay Iceman in the MCU.
    To me, Iceman seems exactly the type of character to have in the movies if they want brownie points for diversity. He's gay but he's part of an ensemble and not a leading man (until very recently). They're not gonna risk a 150 million dollar solo film on him, but as part of a team that has a bunch of other hugely popular characters to act as a buffer? That seems entirely reasonable. I think it's still gonna be a long while before Disney and the rest of Hollywood risk that kind of change on a solo gay lead, but part of a team seems like the most likely starting point. In fact, Renee Montoya is in the Birds of Prey movie, so we'll see how her sexuality is handled there and if there's any actual backlash.

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    Hulkling and Wiccan.

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    The Week In Gay:

    Age Of X-Man: X-Tremists #5 of 5 - multiple LGBT characters featured in this miniseries, written by an LGBT writer.

    Marvel Rising #4 of 5 - America Chavez is part of the cast for this mini

    Runaways #22

    Superior Spider-Man #8 - the new West Coast Avengers guest star...including Miss America, Fuse and Alloy.

    War Of The Realms #6 - the event concludes, and Loki returns

    War Of The Realms: Uncanny X-Men #3 of 3 - Karma is part of the cast

    Mr & Mrs X #12 - sadly this is the conclusion of the run for this very fun series. Maybe Thompson will get a chance to bring it back after Hickman's revamp event for the X-books is over.

    Honourable mention to Fantastic Four #11. No actual LGBT content, but after the FF manage to deal with a strange crystal that was somehow turning people different rainbow colours, one of the civilians asks if they can bring it back for the Pride parade and Valeria says they'll ask the mayor.

    Did I miss anything?

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    Iceman and Northstar.

    And a bonus Kyle

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    Nice! Also cool that we're at a place where Marvel has too many LGBTQ characters to be covered in a mere 30 days. XD

    This Week's Comics: Powers of X #3, James Bond 007 #10, Valkarie #2

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    Loved all of the character spotlights, Dante!!

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    What infuriates me the most in the Grace story is that by not standing by its writer in front of bullying (he's been threatened with rape and murder!) Marvel is giving the harrassers a victory.
    And they will feel encouraged in their behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post


    Iceman and Northstar.

    And a bonus Kyle
    That last one was my fave. Very cute!

    Quote Originally Posted by mogwen View Post
    What infuriates me the most in the Grace story is that by not standing by its writer in front of bullying (he's been threatened with rape and murder!) Marvel is giving the harrassers a victory.
    And they will feel encouraged in their behaviour.
    I feel like now, more than ever, they are afraid to take a stand that could be seen as ''alienating part of your audience''. C.B. Cebulski seems to have zero backbone when it comes to dealing with trolls and haters. His Twitter replies are filled with the same people straight-up trashing and humiliating him and his work, and he doesn't even stand up for himself or block any of them. Marvel has to realize that Comicsgaters are not their allies, because they will never be satisfied with their publishing line as long as they dare to publish anything that's outside of their comfort zone. They will ever only stop hating on Marvel if they stop publishing characters like Miles Morales or Kamala Khan altogether, but we know that's not gonna happen. Those people are not loyal to Marvel and they shouldn't be pandered to. Honestly? I don't even think they bring in all of those sales that they claim Marvel is missing out on. Most of them only seem to ''read'' Marvel books through videos another comicsgater makes about them. There have been a couple of books that were actually praised by those gaters, like The Unbelievable Gwenpool and U.S.Avengers, and neither got a bump in sales because of them. As a matter of fact, both ended up cancelled anyway.

    So, yeah, fuck those guys. Marvel can absolutely do without them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    That last one was my fave. Very cute!



    I feel like now, more than ever, they are afraid to take a stand that could be seen as ''alienating part of your audience''. C.B. Cebulski seems to have zero backbone when it comes to dealing with trolls and haters. His Twitter replies are filled with the same people straight-up trashing and humiliating him and his work, and he doesn't even stand up for himself or block any of them. Marvel has to realize that Comicsgaters are not their allies, because they will never be satisfied with their publishing line as long as they dare to publish anything that's outside of their comfort zone. They will ever only stop hating on Marvel if they stop publishing characters like Miles Morales or Kamala Khan altogether, but we know that's not gonna happen. Those people are not loyal to Marvel and they shouldn't be pandered to. Honestly? I don't even think they bring in all of those sales that they claim Marvel is missing out on. Most of them only seem to ''read'' Marvel books through videos another comicsgater makes about them. There have been a couple of books that were actually praised by those gaters, like The Unbelievable Gwenpool and U.S.Avengers, and neither got a bump in sales because of them. As a matter of fact, both ended up cancelled anyway.

    So, yeah, fuck those guys. Marvel can absolutely do without them.
    Look at some of the comments I had on the comment section (I'm Gwenaël Bernard, hello everybody!), they say Grace is a bad writer (something I honestlydon't have an opinion on, I haven't read enough of his work to voice an opinion!) as if being a bad writer was enough to get harrassed! There's something rotten in the realm of fandom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    I feel like now, more than ever, they are afraid to take a stand that could be seen as ''alienating part of your audience''. C.B. Cebulski seems to have zero backbone when it comes to dealing with trolls and haters. His Twitter replies are filled with the same people straight-up trashing and humiliating him and his work, and he doesn't even stand up for himself or block any of them. Marvel has to realize that Comicsgaters are not their allies, because they will never be satisfied with their publishing line as long as they dare to publish anything that's outside of their comfort zone. They will ever only stop hating on Marvel if they stop publishing characters like Miles Morales or Kamala Khan altogether, but we know that's not gonna happen. Those people are not loyal to Marvel and they shouldn't be pandered to. Honestly? I don't even think they bring in all of those sales that they claim Marvel is missing out on. Most of them only seem to ''read'' Marvel books through videos another comicsgater makes about them. There have been a couple of books that were actually praised by those gaters, like The Unbelievable Gwenpool and U.S.Avengers, and neither got a bump in sales because of them. As a matter of fact, both ended up cancelled anyway.

    So, yeah, fuck those guys. Marvel can absolutely do without them.
    Absolutely. And the sad thing is, they wouldn't even have had to do anything as bold as condemn the Comicsgaters. All Cebulski & Co. needed to do was issue a statement of support for Grace and his work. And even that was too much.

    As someone said earlier, it really does smack of Marvel being happy to take backpats from the general public for their seeming progressiveness, while being just as happy to leave the people actually producing the content to fend for themselves.

    This Week's Comics: Powers of X #3, James Bond 007 #10, Valkarie #2

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    And what does it say of a company that doesn't defend its employee when he's threatened with rape and murder?
    As I always say, you're either part of the solution or part of the problem. There's no middle ground on this.

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    It's made easier for Marvel to abdicate responsibility because the majority of their creatives are technically freelancers and not employees. That's not an excuse, but that's part of the line of logic.

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