View Poll Results: Who is your favourite 616 Marvel LGBT character?

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  • ANOLE [Victor Borkowski]

    26 3.56%
  • BLING! [Roxanne ‘Roxy’ Washington]

    12 1.64%
  • CULLEN BLOODSTONE

    20 2.74%
  • DAKEN AKIHIRO

    42 5.75%
  • HULKLING [Theodore ‘Teddy’ Altman]

    35 4.79%
  • KARMA [Xi’an Coy Mahn]

    38 5.20%
  • KAROLINA DEAN

    43 5.88%
  • LOKI LAUFEYSON, God of Mischief

    62 8.48%
  • MOONDRAGON [Heather Douglas]

    38 5.20%
  • MYSTIQUE [Raven Darkholme]

    107 14.64%
  • NORTHSTAR [Jean-Paul Beaubier]

    59 8.07%
  • PRODIGY [David Alleyne]

    21 2.87%
  • RICTOR [Julio Esteban Ricter]

    35 4.79%
  • SHATTERSTAR [Gaveedra-7]

    45 6.16%
  • WICCAN [William ‘Billy’ Kaplan], the Demiurge

    148 20.25%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I do wish they could have done something more with what they had. I'm sure the movie wasn't an easy one to write and trying to incorporate LGBT elements were just another thing to consider, but it could have been done.
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    They could have had Valkyrie with a girlfriend in New Asgard, they could have had Maria show up alongside Carol at Tony's funeral, they could have had Loki outright flirt with one of the guys arresting him, they could have had the kid who cyberbullied Korg over Fortnite say something homophobic and have Korg say something about how he doesn't understand why humans make such a big deal over it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I do wish they could have done something more with what they had. I'm sure the movie wasn't an easy one to write and trying to incorporate LGBT elements were just another thing to consider, but it could have been done.
    I'm more disappointed that it was only in the final film of the series (yes, there will be more MCU movies but this was the grand finale for the story they've been telling so far) that they could finally work in an explicitly LGBT character and it was in such a minor role.

    It's extremely telling that even with Taika Waititi fighting to try and include confirmation of Valkyrie's bisexuality in Thor: Ragnarok that it still didn't get included.

    Whenever one of Marvel's higher-ups says something like; "the world is ready for a gay superhero" you should remember that the director of one of their films fought the studio to include an LGBT character and still lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
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    They could have had Valkyrie with a girlfriend in New Asgard, they could have had Maria show up alongside Carol at Tony's funeral, they could have had Loki outright flirt with one of the guys arresting him, they could have had the kid who cyberbullied Korg over Fortnite say something homophobic and have Korg say something about how he doesn't understand why humans make such a big deal over it
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    Those are all good points too.

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    Here's an article talking about the frustrations that some of us are feeling with "Marvel's first gay character". Contains spoilers for Avengers: Endgame.

    https://www.laineygossip.com/the-rus...haracter/55562

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
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    They could have had Valkyrie with a girlfriend in New Asgard, they could have had Maria show up alongside Carol at Tony's funeral, they could have had Loki outright flirt with one of the guys arresting him, they could have had the kid who cyberbullied Korg over Fortnite say something homophobic and have Korg say something about how he doesn't understand why humans make such a big deal over it
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    Those would all be incredibly forced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magmaster12 View Post
    Those would all be incredibly forced
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    How? Clint's family showed up for Stark's funeral, they met him once, I don't think Hank Pym or Janet ever did. Why not include Maria Rambeau?

    The 2012 Time Heist included multiple references to Captain America's ass, and Loki glamoring as Steve to annoy people. Why not have him flirt with a guy in the process?

    And the whole scene of Thor threatening some kid on Fortnite was incredibly forced, why not use it to give Korg some character development?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Everything about this sounds incredible!!
    "It's not about adding diversity for the sake of diversity, it's about subtracting homogeneity for the sake of realism."
    -Mary Robinette Kowal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    I am screaming, I cannot believe this is real. Preordering several copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Sounds terrible, but I'll hold of judgment untill I've read it.
    #EmmaWasRight

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    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    Sounds terrible, but I'll hold of judgment untill I've read it.
    You made me spit out my bubble tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    You made me spit out my bubble tea.
    I just don't see what Wiccan or Hulkling have to do with drag.
    It doesn't fit him or Teddy IMO.
    #EmmaWasRight

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    I'm... Curious, more than anything lol.

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    So, about Endgame: I watched the movie yesterday. Gay Joe Russo was... ok. It's obviously just a very minor thing, and I'm not all happy about it or anything. But I'm not mad either. It's not like there was a promise that Endgame would have LGBT representation... The recent comments and rumors and etc are more about future movies, Endgame was already shot since last year. It's the ending of this era of the MCU, that had no representation, and I don't think anyone should be expecting this to be the one where they really do something. I guess it's a smaaall first step.

    Out of the suggestions for how it could be done better, yeah, I agree with some. Giving Valkyrie a girlfriend mainly(I don't see how Loki would be flirting being restrained with that thing on his mouth... And while Korg's sexuality being confirmed would be nice, I don't think it had any place on that dumb scene lol). I'm not gonna pat them in the back for it but I also feel like most complaints are a bit uncalled for. It's kinda like... We could have the movie with that scene or without. I guess I'm glad it was with it. But again, didn't make me feel any type of way(maybe I would have been slightly excited for a second in the cinema if I hadn't read that there was something like that, but the conclusion would be the same lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    I just don't see what Wiccan or Hulkling have to do with drag.
    It doesn't fit him or Teddy IMO.
    They're young gay men living in NYC. Drag brunch is a super fun thing that young gay men in NYC often go to. I don't think they'll be doing drag themselves, just attending. I also imagine while they've been off-duty the past couple years, they probably made other gay friends in the city and hang out at gay places i.e. gay bars where drag brunch happens. Especially if they've actually been aged up like the Death's Head mini suggests, this makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    I just don't see what Wiccan or Hulkling have to do with drag.
    It doesn't fit him or Teddy IMO.
    Out of laughter, out of laughter. But I agree, idk I’m apprehensive but hopefully it’s...readable? I used to follow Oliveira for a little bit, is this his first comic?

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