LGBT+ Marvel Characters Discussion

[Anduinel]

Backstagers, featuring *maybe* an all-queer cast, is adorable and cute but won't be for everyone. It is very much a Boom! title (I am personally not a fan of their biggest hit, the very queer Lumberjanes), but I like James Tynion IV (an openly bisexual comics writer) a lot outside of this title so I have a lot of confidence in him.

The Woods by James Tynion IV also has quite a few LGBT cast members and has been an enjoyable horror/fantasy title. His Memetic is another horror book with a gay protagonist, and definitely a skin-crawling read.

DC Bombshells has a majority LGBT cast and has been a lot of fun overall.

Kim & Kim from Black Mask has a trans protagonist. Not sure how much I like it yet, but it's interesting enough that I'll pick up the second issue.

Manifest Destiny is an excellent historical horror book from Image with an explicitly bisexual Meriwether Lewis as one of the leads.

Princeless and it's spin-off series Raven: The Pirate Princess both feature LGBT supporting cast or have LGBT leading ladies. Lots of all-ages fun there.

[Andru]

Angela was a character from the Spawn comics. Marvel bought the rights to the character, and brought into the Marvel Universe. She's an Asgardian, the daughter of Odin and Freyja, stolen as a baby by the Angels of Heven. When she grew up, she became one of Heven's greatest warriors. During a job, she met Sera, who was identified as male at birth, and thus was sent to live with a bunch of monks. Sera never felt comfortable there, so asked for help in escaping the monastery, and then transitioned to female, making her an extremely rare trans character from Marvel. Angela and Sera became lovers, then Sera died during a job. Angela learned that dead Angels were sent to Hel, so she stormed Hel and conquered it just so she could return Sera to life.

Thank you!

I know Angela is currently in GOTG. Is Sera appearing anywhere?

[Tiamatty]

Thank you!

I know Angela is currently in GOTG. Is Sera appearing anywhere?

Sera is appearing only in my dreams. Where she's my English teacher and sings pop music.

. . . OK, that actually sounds like it'd be a cool dream and I hope it happens tonight.

[Andru]

Sera is appearing only in my dreams. Where she's my English teacher and sings pop music.

. . . OK, that actually sounds like it'd be a cool dream and I hope it happens tonight.

Haha, have some ice cream. I have heard that can give people some crazy dreams if they eat it close enough to bedtime.

[Lucena Soares]

Haha, have some ice cream. I have heard that can give people some crazy dreams if they eat it close enough to bedtime.

Studying to a test also works. You wouldn't believe what I dreamed with after binge studying Embriology.

[Tiamatty]

Haha, have some ice cream. I have heard that can give people some crazy dreams if they eat it close enough to bedtime.

Studying to a test also works. You wouldn't believe what I dreamed with after binge studying Embriology.

I'll study ice cream! That's sure to work!

[Kieran_Frost]

This is so not the discussion I thought we'd be having after mention the Pokemon GO porn parody. My apologies.

Oh, come here, boo

WicDiv continues to be amazing, and full of The Gay, of all kinds. Insexts, by Marguerite Bennett and Ariela Kristantina, is deeply messed-up, full of body horror right next to explicit lesbian sex, and is a great feminist story. Bitch Planet isn't an LGBT lead, but it does have some LGBT content, with the main character's sibling being trans.

So far behind on WicDiv. Still need to read the second TPB (damn fringe taking me away; but I'm back and hoping this weekend to binge of WicDiv).

For Marvel, Black Panther obviously gets a big nod, with the Midnight Angels, and I am so excited for their spin-off. New Avengers has me totally invested in the Toni/Aikku ship. Hellcat, likewise, has me totally invested in the Tom/Ian ship. (One of you ask the other out! Make a move! Our hearts can't take much more of this!). I'm glad to see Cindy's friends getting more focus in Silk right now, and Tana Ford seems to love drawing these hip young lesbians.

I did invest a lot in Toni/Aikku, one of the surprise enjoyments of New Avengers. LOVING the Midnight Angels also; that series is just so good in general. Not read either Hellcat or Silk; worth picking up?

I think DC's Midnighter by queer writer Steve Orlando was by far one of the best mainstream queer titles I've ever read and am glad he and his partner Apollo are teaming up for a miniseries later this year.

Midnighter didn't do it for me, I think it's because I'm such a Marvel boy, that I just didn't feel the same "squeal" because it wasn't my team. I do wish we had a Marvel version of that series, though; something ballsey and really going for it, proudly and unashamedly gay.

Total agreement.
Angela on Bendis Guardians book shows more personality than she did in her last solo (aways felt Queen of Hell was more about Sera than Angela) and i am liking it.

My secret shame is: I didn't really care for Queen of Hel. Loved the story, but the characterisation (for both Angela and Sera) felt horribly off from what we got in Angela: Assassin of Asgard. It actually made me dislike Sera quite a bit (and I adored her in A: AoA).

Sera should be in GotG with Angela. Honestly, I'm betting the fact that Angela's a lesbian probably won't even come up in GotG. Bendis just doesn't really seem to include actual LGBT content in his comics. He sometimes includes LGBT characters, but they don't get to have romances. It makes me wonder if Bendis held off on Iceman coming out until the very end of his run so that he wouldn't have to actually deal with it.

Regardless, I'd like it if Bendis at least had Sera show up, complete with smooching.

Woah, woah, woah! I'd argue Bendis is one of THE BEST writers when it comes to LGBT at Marvel. Daken was (arguably) the first openly LGBT Avengers (i.e. being on a team once the character has been confirmed LGBT), though the team doesn't official count as Avengers - Bendis. Victoria Hand - Bendis. Benjamin Morph - Bendis. Iceman - Bendis (and that one was HUGE!). I agree he doesn't really do LGBT relationships (outside of Victoria Hand, and they didn't kiss from memory). But he has one of the better track records (and has for years) of including LGBT characters (where their sexuality actually comes up).

[Fokken]

Kieran, I usually agree with you, but I have to disagree on this. While I think it is great the majority of the posters in here feel comfortable enough to discuss so openly with each other, not everyone is at that comfort level. You are right, talking about something specifically "G" out of "LGBT" is not excluding the other groups or allies. However, not everyone is comfortable talking about porn with people they barely know. Especially porn they would never watch. This is, as stated, an appreciation thread for LGBT Marvel characters. I personally have nothing against porn or the discussion of it, I just don't think this is the appropriate place for it. Maybe a separate thread should be created in the community forum if their is enough people who want to discuss.

And just to be fair, I would be saying the same thing if I ever spotted something like this in a character's specific appreciation thread.

Yes.

This is OF COURSE a free forum where we are welcome to speak/type our minds (within the bounds of the CBR rules) but that also means we are, each of us, welcome to encourage or in this case discourage certain topics in the interest of avoiding alienation of others.

None of us are "in charge" of this thread or trying to ban topics --that's a bit ridiculous that any ONE of us would have THAT much ego, but we as a community can do our best to keep discussion on topic and avoid making each other uncomfortable.
We're not policing anything -- simply making a suggestion to redirect a conversation topic to a more appropriate venue. Nothing more. Nothing less. This is not an attempt to infringe on anyone's rights or anyone's identity or some half-assed form of oppression or projection of self loathing.

Respectfully: Chill.

[ZNOP]

Angela was a character from the Spawn comics. Marvel bought the rights to the character, and brought into the Marvel Universe. She's an Asgardian, the daughter of Odin and Freyja, stolen as a baby by the Angels of Heven. When she grew up, she became one of Heven's greatest warriors. During a job, she met Sera, who was identified as male at birth, and thus was sent to live with a bunch of monks. Sera never felt comfortable there, so asked for help in escaping the monastery, and then transitioned to female, making her an extremely rare trans character from Marvel. Angela and Sera became lovers, then Sera died during a job. Angela learned that dead Angels were sent to Hel, so she stormed Hel and conquered it just so she could return Sera to life.

How was Sera's transition (title and issue please) from male to female depicted?

[Lucena Soares]

How was Sera's transition (title and issue please) from male to female depicted?

Magical treatment (flashback scene) in issue #3 of Angela: Asgard's Assassin.

[Fokken]

How was Sera's transition (title and issue please) from male to female depicted?

Why do you ask for title and issue number every time you ask for information?

Do people lie to you often?

[MasterOfMagnetism]

Oh, come here, boo

Lol. Oh Kieran, of all the people who never sent me a friend request you are by far the friendliest.

[Kieran_Frost]

Lol. Oh Kieran, of all the people who never sent me a friend request you are by far the friendliest.

HAHAHAHAHA! Lordy lord, you could have sent me one, you know! RECTIFIED! Happy! I expect daily messages of praise!

[dragonmp93]

Why do you ask for title and issue number every time you ask for information?

Do people lie to you often?

In the X-board, yes.

Like that Storm is stronger than the Phoenix Force and stuff like that.

[Fokken]

In the X-board, yes.

Like that Storm is stronger than the Phoenix Force and stuff like that.

Oh sure, sure.
Yeah certain.....enthusiasts.... tend to adopt hyerbole and pepper it with delusions and denial.