Originally Posted by
godisawesome
I think eventually we'll get some kind of amalgamated Talia, whether in comics or some other media, and that day will be quite awesome.
Without Morrison's changes, you've got a character who's perpetually a puppet for her father and a prize for the world's most dangerous men to fight over. Her brief time rebelling against daddy and helping Bruce destroy LexCorp was pretty awesome (seriously, she was an ambiguous power player uninvolved with her father's insanity), but then, as mentioned above, she was brainwashed back to lackey. Giving her. Leviathan and her own focus makes her a big league villain.
But with Morrison's changes, you get a mostly one dimensional villain so cliche it hurts. She doesn't really evolve beyond being a plot-device. If anything, she actually devolves into more of one: she's the by-the-numbers world conqueror (without any resonating motive), callous parent in a metaphorical "divorce" that claims her son's life (in which she shows less emotion than her previous incarnations), and plot device opposite Batman Inc.
We also lose an awful lot of potential character arcs and developments in shenanigans leading up to her transformation. Were she and Bruce genuinely in love when Damian was conceived? Apparently not, because first the story was removed from continuity, than Morrison hand waved it as eugenics and date rape (because somehow that's supposed to be more engaging then a broken hearted relationship with actual visceral emotions from both parties.) There's so much potential in making their little family a tragic failure than there is in making her a parody of a supervillain with an alien personality and thought process.
I mean this is ridiculous: Even the movie they just released is like "meh, Batman's a baby-daddy." This is big damn deal, and Talia should be as well, but not just as an antagonist, but as a character! Damain got awesome once he ceased being a plot device, so the same should apply to Talia.
Imagine reading a book or watching a movie where Talia and Bruce are genuinely in love and trusting of one another, in manner outside of Ra's's "I need a male heir, dagnabit!" context. A story where we see why Bruce would find her captivating and vice versa. Then, when they break apart, we actually see Talia tragically slide down the path towards villainy, and we see introspection on both her and Bruce's view of their relationship both past and present. Then when she surpasses her father, there's a strong personal relationship between the two that Damian finds himself caught in the middle of.
Now that would be awesome.