The Sensational She-Hulk Appreciation

[KC]

I decided to read Avengers #2 because the last one did not have much She-Hulk in it and I wanted a taste for how Aaron would write the character.

I hated this issue. Aaron wrote She-Hulk as a generic Hulk and that is exactly what she shouldn't be. I hope Jen's time in this book is short and I hope a writer that understands who the character is comes along soon.

[beetee]

I think this is obvious that this is a "phase" for her... what's interesting is her teammates seem to be shrugging this off....

[Sensational C]

I think this is obvious that this is a "phase" for her... what's interesting is her teammates seem to be shrugging this off....

What's worrying, for me at least, is that this phase has been seen before and increasing from one issue problems for her to an Avengers arch, to now multiple arches of not only her own solo but also Avengers. I'm worried She-Hulk losing control will be the default Plan B for Jen whenever she doesn't have something going on. She has been this way since Civil War 2, unfortunately one of the few hold overs from that event, so I guess her teammates will be ready for the development when they all meet up.

[beetee]

I think the logic goes like this.... The Avengers 1,000,000BC are "eternal archetypes" with each Avenger having an analogue in the present (This I'm not really crazy about... I mean even for comic book logic, that's ridiculous), So there "Must Always Be A Hulk".... And Jennifer is it, which would explain why the "Cure" didn't take.... The same would hold true if Red She Hulk, Doc Samson or A-Bomb were on the team....

[OBrianTallent]

Absolutely hate how Jen was portrayed in Avengers #2.

[Danileriver23]

I think this is obvious that this is a "phase" for her... what's interesting is her teammates seem to be shrugging this off....

When? the only person she's met so far is Ghost Rider...

[Danileriver23]

I discussed this in the Avengers 2 thread as well, but this seems more appropriate to go into detail:

I perfectly understand peoples concerns over jen, I wasn't a big fan of this depiction either. However, I don't feel it's fair to put the blame on Aaron for this. This is a marvel/bendis problem. back one Marvel greenlit the "hulk busting missile (god that's still SO DUMB) they knew full well that it was going to lead into the Tamaki and Hulk book. I imagine that bendis pitched the effect it had on jen despite the fact that he wasn't going to be the one writing it, although Marvel could've come up with it after he gave them the script, but either way, Marvel made the awful decision to run with it.

Next, Tamaki got stuck with this busted character and was tasked with reimagining a classic character that fans were already upset about being broken, on top of fans yelling at her for making her Hulk as opposed to Hulk (probably not her call) and her "SJW" politics which is a lot to put on her plate. In the end, the book ended up flopping.

Around that time, Marvel was in the middle of planning their new relaunch, Fresh start, which was being lead by Jason Aaron. These things get planned out WAY in advance, so by the time he was crafting this story, I imagine Tamaki was still working on her run. Marvel editorial is unfortunately becoming infamous for its lack of communication with other teams (although, based on Jason Aarons either willful or unintentional ignorance of ghost rider as well he may have just not read/liked these books) so he probably didn't know how that was going to end.

So at this point, Aaron is stuck with a character that was broken by Bendis, and was getting "fixed" by Tamaki and the fans were NOT accepting. Based on all of that, it makes WAY more sense to just break Jen down to as base of a hulk archetype as possible, i.e. "HULK SQUISH", so that he can build her back into a character more reminiscent of what the fans used to like about her instead of staying on course with the version people weren't liking. Iirc, he mentioned specifically picking She-Hulk for this team because he had plans for her. I imagine those plans involve fixing her, it'll just take some time.

TL;DR: If you're mad at how this She-Hulk acts, be mad at marvel and bendis.

Minor note: Not a fan of hulking figure on a female hulk. The fact that the pants and the shirt both have to be indestructible bothers me. I preferred the size increase from Tamki's run more where she wasn't this massive figure, but that's probably more on McG than Aaron

[beetee]

When? the only person she's met so far is Ghost Rider...

Yeah, for some reason I thought they had formally teamed up.

[Danileriver23]

Ghost Rider DID meet chulk in when they tried to make that second "new fantastic four" team but...we don't talk about that...

[beetee]

Minor note: Not a fan of hulking figure on a female hulk. The fact that the pants and the shirt both have to be indestructible bothers me. I preferred the size increase from Tamki's run more where she wasn't this massive figure, but that's probably more on McG than Aaron

I like her big. Just not with the personality. For what it's worth her torn blouse stayed magically on during her entire "Savage" phase.

[Danileriver23]

Maybe im just misremembering it because I dropped off the tamaki run pretty early, but I remember it being less bulky than this, sort of a middleground between classic she hulk and what we have now so it didnt seem as ridiculous.

but again, I think that's just McG's style,

[GodThor]

I prefer her to look like this more or less

[The_Greatest_Username]

I miss that She-Hulk as well. She should be a knockout with a huge personality.

[Supermutant2099]

I miss that She-Hulk as well. She should be a knockout with a huge personality.

True. I don't mind her muscular but its hulk smash is boring. Character is so much better then that. Devolves the character in the worst ways. I said it before making her a boring, bland, generic hulk #4 with breasts. Aaroon seems to think can make up for it with new powers. New powers can not make a boring version of character who devoid of everything fans like about her. It does make the character any more interesting. Considering to me they never given really explained why she went savage post cwii or why she is now again.

[Cmbmool]

I think this is obvious that this is a "phase" for her... what's interesting is her teammates seem to be shrugging this off....

I agree and this is coming from the same writer that had THOR ACT MORE "WOE IS ME MY HAMMER IS LOST" throughout the past two years and having people close to him qustioning it.

Aaron could use Red Hulk or something as a way to keep the Avengers in line in the aftermath of Secret Empire and their previous moments...Anything better and more in-character than She-Hulk acting up.