Betty Kane / Bette Kane Appreciation 2018

[millernumber1]

I've heard that, but I can't find a source on it - do you have one? She was one of the only good things about the Andreyko issues.

Sorry to derail, though - I love Bette as well! Thrilled that Tynion isn't just playing with the Elegy/Go stuff for Kate, but going into the Blackman/Williams stuff for Bette and Alice. (and he even referenced Andreyko's stuff with Clayface, too!)

[Caivu]

I've heard that, but I can't find a source on it - do you have one? She was one of the only good things about the Andreyko issues.

It's in here:

http://doomrocket.com/james-tynion-iv-interview/

The exact quote is:

In getting prepared for this story I read through all of the Batwoman material that exists, from her creation to today. This story is the next step in that journey. This is moving that story along, particularly for Kate and Jacob Kane. There are lingering threads, like with Alice — I mean Rucka, Williams and [Marc] Andreyko all went into that — and while Alice won’t be front and center with this arc, people who have been following her the whole time will be thrilled to find that this is the next chapter. It’s something that’s built from something that’s come before. But for the people who are coming in and meeting Batwoman for the first time, I think they will be very engaged and very excited by the character. They’ll be able to jump right in.

[millernumber1]

Thanks! That's a bit ambiguous, but I hope so much!

[Katana500]

It looks like Betty Kane will show up in Detective comics eventually according to Tynion.
So we have a lot to be excited for!

[Herowatcher]

It looks like Betty Kane will show up in Detective comics eventually according to Tynion.
So we have a lot to be excited for!

I'll look at this as good news too.

Just hoping Tynion won't bring Bette back (once again) to being incompetent and unfocused.
It's been done too much to her over the years by past writers. I definitely don't want her playing second fiddle to Steph or Cassandra.
Bette's older than the two, been in the business longer and is more experienced than Stephanie....IMHO.

[Caivu]

I'll look at this as good news too.

Just hoping Tynion won't bring Bette back (once again) to being incompetent and unfocused.
It's been done too much to her over the years by past writers. I definitely don't want her playing second fiddle to Steph or Cassandra.
Bette's older than the two, been in the business longer and is more experienced than Stephanie....IMHO.

Not just in terms of physical age, but publication age, too: if she returns as a regular, she'll be the third-oldest character on the team after Batman and Clayface in terms of publication history.

[byrd156]

Not just in terms of physical age, but publication age, too: if she returns as a regular, she'll be the third-oldest character on the team after Batman and Clayface in terms of publication history.

I hope she comes back as a really competent fighter who works extremely well with Batwoman and the group. She could show up and show off in front of the team, it could really give Bette some time to shine. I also hope she doesn't go by Hawkfire, Flamebird is a much cooler name and that her costume looks more like her 90s-2000s version.

[Caivu]

Hopefully this doesn't happen because with only two issues left in this arc it would feel like a last-minute twist or too much information at the end, but maybe Bette's been roped into the Colony somehow, and Kate pulls off with Bette the exact same "join us" speech that Jacob tried out on her but failed with.

Edit: Ooh! Maybe Jacob could do the whole Vader-esque "if you won't join me, then perhaps she will" thing. Although that could again have the problem of not setting up Bette enough for new readers, and she and Kate were never exactly super close anyway, but...maybe.

[millernumber1]

Hopefully this doesn't happen because with only two issues left in this arc it would feel like a last-minute twist or too much information at the end, but maybe Bette's been roped into the Colony somehow, and Kate pulls off with Bette the exact same "join us" speech that Jacob tried out on her but failed with.

Edit: Ooh! Maybe Jacob could do the whole Vader-esque "if you won't join me, then perhaps she will" thing. Although that could again have the problem of not setting up Bette enough for new readers, and she and Kate were never exactly [I]super[/I close anyway, but...maybe.

Well, in the Batwoman series, she was definitely fairly close to Jacob, so I could really see her being part of or aware of the Colony.

[Katana500]

I hope she eventually joins the group! I'd love to see her interact more with Steph, cass and harper

[Vinsanity]

I hope she eventually joins the group! I'd love to see her interact more with Steph, cass and harper

Oh I don't know about that.

I would like to see her in Nightwing though

[Oberon]

Jacob's grief only makes sense if Bette's his daughter? It's weird to you that he reacted the way he did if she's only his neice?

Certainly there would still be grief; I have 3 nieces I would grieve over. But a parent's grief is stronger, certainly "comic book style".

Having said that, I guess I agree/disagree on the accuracy or appropriateness of Jacob's grief in that story. It was a scene, that for me, spoke volumes to the familial relationships in Wayne *and* Kane families.

[Oberon]

Love this picture. Never got to read that story, though.

[Oberon]

Hurray! He only mentions her as Bette, not Flame, Hawk, or "bat-girl". But I have hope.

[Oberon]

I hope she eventually joins the group! I'd love to see her interact more with Steph, cass and harper

Yeah, but eventually - if things work out, I would like to see a reunion for Dick and Bette, of some sort.

I too hope they don't recreate Bette's past, not very competent, etc. Quite frankly, this is a tradition and problem in comics; certain characters are built up, then ret-conned into their previous meme. Bette, is a stellar example of that. As the original Bat-girl, she saved Batman, etc. a couple of times in her original early '60s appearances. She was helpful in the final issues of the original Teen Titans comic as well.

I prefer her costume from Batwoman's series, rather than older versions, but it is more important for her to on the canvas, than not.

I think it would be interesting if they could explain either Batwoman, or Flamebird as being a 2nd cousin of Bruce - implying that Bruce, Kate and Bette's parents are/were cousins, and children of cousins are generally held as 2nd cousins. In families as rich as Wayne and Kane, this should present no real problems. Being 'cousins' is just more colloquiel than 2nd cousins.