Switching over to Marvel: Carnage and Thunderbolt TPB question

[LadyLutece]

Hey, long time reader, first time poster.

I've been a collector of mostly DC TPBs for a long time now, and finally decided that I want to really explore Marvel more for a while. (Dont want to start THAT debate. I like both, but I tend to focus more on one at a time to get the whole universe's picture).

My problem is that 2 of the main books I want are kind of unavailable. The first is the Thunderbolts vol 1, which is way out of my price range at $40-100.

http://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolts-V.../dp/0785166947

My question is: WHY is it so expensive and can I get it for cheaper (besides digital)? I mean, I get that it's a popular series with a great lineup, but it's a paperback of only 6 issues and is only 2 years old. Surely I can get it for $20 somewhere?

Secondly, I really wanted to get some Carnage books, as recent as possible. The best one I could find is this book of the limited 2010-2011 series, but I can't actually find it anywhere online. Nothing is selling it or even mentions it.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Carnage_Vol_1

My question is: Do you know where I can buy this? Was it digital only or something? (Didn't even find it in digital form). Can you recommend any other Carnage TPBs that are good and fairly recent?

Was thinking about getting Deadpool vs Carnage but not sure yet. Anyway, thanks in advance for your input.

[Panfoot]

http://www.amazon.com/Carnage-Family...GAT0439QP1C7XK

I *think* that may be the carnage TPB your looking for.

[LadyLutece]

Cool, thanks. I kept searching "carnage vol 1" instead of "carnage family feud." Can't wait to read it.

[LadyLutece]

Just to let anyone know who may have the same problem with the Thunderbolts TPB, I ended up calling all my local bookstores, and Half Priced Books had one for $7.99 in Minnesota that they're now shipping to me

Just a reminder to always call you book stores.

And if anyone has any recommendations for what Marvel books I should read, feel free to make suggestions. I enjoy the more adult, somewhat darker genre of comics, so anything in that area would be preferable.

[Bafflement]

Check out Uncanny X-Force Vol. 1. It's darker and more violent than average, and is considered one of the stronger runs from the past decade.

[Mighty Roman]

If you enjoy Carnage: The Family Feud, then you may enjoy it's sequel miniseries,Carnage U.S.A., Minimum Carnage (which is also a Venom/Scarlet Spider crossover) and Superior Carnage.

[Talkie Toaster]

It's not just the Thunderbolts TPB, every time a TPB goes out of stock with amazon the price by third party vendors skyrockets.

[LadyLutece]

Thanks for the suggestions. They definitely look like my kind of comics.

It's not just the Thunderbolts TPB, every time a TPB goes out of stock with amazon the price by third party vendors skyrockets.

Ok, cool. I'm glad I at least know what made them skyrocket. I'm going to keep tabs on Amazons stock now for books that I start to fall behind on.

[CIA]

I do not recommend that particular Thunderbolts TPB, it's really, really terrible. You can't go wrong with the Busiek/Bagley run contained on the Classics or Ellis/Deodato run.

[Pav]

The only Thunderbolts I've ever read was the Ellis/Deodato run, and I loved it. Fun stuff.

Don't know a lot about recent Carnage comics, but I can tell you that the "Minimum Carnage" crossover between Scarlet Spider and Venom was not good. Avoid it!

If you want more mature comics, Si Spurrier's run on X-Men: Legacy is probably one of the greatest runs (of anything) I've ever read. It's almost like a series under DC's Vertigo imprint - mature themes, quirky art, mostly self-contained, and just really (really) well-written. I can't recommend it enough.

-Pav, who is also loving all the comics he currently reads...

[LadyLutece]

I do not recommend that particular Thunderbolts TPB, it's really, really terrible. You can't go wrong with the Busiek/Bagley run contained on the Classics or Ellis/Deodato run.

That's a bummer. The roster is so perfect that I had really high hopes for it. Do you know if it gets better at all in the subsequent volumes?

I'll def check out those runs as well.

[Venomous Mask]

Family Feud and USA are the best modern Carnage stories, imo. Deadpool vs. Carnage is fun but not all that serious (which is to be expected). Minimum Carnage is okay, though I would only recommend it for hardcore fans. Superior Carnage was cool but it was too much of a Wizard story for my taste.

[DragonPiece]

That's a bummer. The roster is so perfect that I had really high hopes for it. Do you know if it gets better at all in the subsequent volumes?

I'll def check out those runs as well.

Honestly, no. Charles Soule takes over midway, but it's easily his weakest title he's released for the big 2 comic companies. Were you reading thunderbolts for a particular character or something?

[LadyLutece]

Honestly, no. Charles Soule takes over midway, but it's easily his weakest title he's released for the big 2 comic companies. Were you reading thunderbolts for a particular character or something?

Not really, it's more the combination of them. I can't stand half the members on the Suicide Squad, so a perfect roster was appealing. I do love Venom, Elektra, and Deadpool though.

And yeah, I noticed it switched to Soule, who I haven't read a lot of, but I was really impressed with his brief run on Superman/Wonder Woman.

[Pat Thomas]

Not really, it's more the combination of them. I can't stand half the members on the Suicide Squad, so a perfect roster was appealing. I do love Venom, Elektra, and Deadpool though.

And yeah, I noticed it switched to Soule, who I haven't read a lot of, but I was really impressed with his brief run on Superman/Wonder Woman.

Who knows, you might like it. Everybody has their own tastes, and the book did have some fans. It got off to a slow start, and when the writing improved,
the art became inconsistent and mostly bad. You might like Thunderbolts Vol 1 (1997-2003) better. From the first issue to #75 is really entertaining. Don't bother
with 76-81, though. The less said about them, the better.