I was thinking and the kid who played Mike on Stranger Things (Finn Wolfhard) could be a really good Billy Batson. The right age and the right look.
Nope, it's the exactly what we're talking about. Your criticism of CoS, besides the depiction of Billy Batson, was that the kids were not fully fleshed out to begin with. In fact, no character at the start of any series is fully fleshed out, which is why story arcs are important. Even Captain Marvel, as with many staple characters, had to go through the usual process of character development, in order to be fully fleshed out. Otherwise, a character rings hollow to a reader. Besides, the fact that you used the term "Cursed Kids", undermines your argument you might have in having a reasonable discussion on whether or not the kids, outside of Billy, Mary and Freddy, can have the actual character development they deserve. Sorry, but, in my opinion, there is no wasted character; just wasted potential for growth (prime example of the opposite: Harley Quinn, Lobo, Red Hood and Booster Gold, to name a few, who went from tetiary characters to name-brand characters that ended up having their own series...because their characters were fleshed out to be something more). Sorry, but that doesn't quite wash.
You can say that about a number of characters from the Fawcett Comics line that we never saw in the main DCU, as of yet, but I bet you'd be the first one to welcome into fold, as "modern" incarnations. Then again, not to sure if I want "Steamboat Wille" to reappear...EVER again. But knowing you, you probably want him back, albeit done in the way that Darwyn Cook improved the depiction of Ebony White ("The Spirit").
This is one of the few things we agree on. I still razz on Geoff Johns' Twitter feed about this on occasion...
Nope. Freddy's beef with Captain Nazi took time to unfold. The only thing that Freddy initially did was be Cap's sidekick, until he got his own series. Same thing in PoS...
Nope. Mary served as a "MacGuffin" for Billy in PoS, whereas in the Golden Age, he didn't even know he had a twin sister. As for Freddy, I distinctly remember him and Billy getting over fights, with Billy acting territorial over his sister, while Freddy pretty much ran off and became "emo". Doesn't sound too different from your criticism of how Billy has been acting of late...
Better comic than PoS, and by a better writer (love his "Bone" series), so I will give you this one.
I like the the depiction of the Marvel Family in BtB&tB; not too crazy about how he was depicted either in YOUNG JUSTICE or JUSTICE LEAGUE ACTION. However, I'm just not saying that CoS is worse for going a different route. Just different. But, to each his or her own.
So...you just changed the genders. Okay, but your character treatment is no different from what Geoff Johns wanted to do. Again, characters can be "advanced" to become fully developed, I, IMO, don't see the need to get rid of Pedro, Darla or Eugene other than the fact that you want to do so specifically because of Johns, who created the kids. Seems a bit short-sighted and needlessly personal.
I brought it up in the context of the comic books, which is why I wondered why you threw in "race" into this discussion. At least you acknowledge the term as a counter-argument when describing Darla, Pedro and Eugene, which is perfectly legitimate...
We can all be jerks about our passion. The difference is that, in this case, I'm RIGHT. ;-) LOL. Kidding, of course. Anyway, I will await your response, as always. Love reading your treatment of a Marvel Family "revamp", even though we all know that best treatment is Jeff Parker and Doc Shaner (CONVERGENCE: SHAZAM!). Those guys rock...
So, are Superman and Captain Marvel/Shazam loyal allies/friends or are they adversaries/rivals that have to work with each other when they have to? I've recently read Superman/Shazam: First Thunder and what I got from the end is that Clark becomes this mentor-type/father figure to Billy. But what does it comes down to, allies or rivals?
On overall strength and power level, I always figured Superman was equal to Captain Marvel/Shazam.
Wonder Woman a notch beneath them.
Jr Marvel and Mary a notch below WW.
Is this accurate?
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I figure Captain Marvel and Superman are equal (as long as power sharing isn't happening as then it's split in CM's case) with Wonder Woman being just barely under in strength to either.
And the others like Freddie and Mary being about as strong as Supergirl, maybe a bit weaker when they're all channeling power at the same time (same for CM).
Well, way back, they used to state that WW was stronger than Hercules, whereas CM has the strength of Hercules. But I never saw WW beat CM or be considered by DC as his power equal.
Eh. It's not like it's a real one to one ratio. I mean Wonderwoman HAS fought and beat up Hercules in her own comic after all. And while I know folks love to debate how literal the stength of Hercules and so forth are they're ultimately just terms to give you an idea of CM's power.
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My ultimate Captain Marvel continuity would be to combine the Marvel, DC and Fawcett timelines, where Billy Batson, formerly the GA Captain Marvel, is the Wizard (and present Guardian of the RoE), while Carol Danvers is modern Captain Marvel (as Billy's Champion). More to come later...
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