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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    Cokie Roberts actually brought up that very point on the George S. show...that she felt Trump was really trying to deflect from the women's marches by making the discussion about him and his war with the press.
    Good for her. It is part of his M.O. to do that. Create a Big Lie to obscure the truth.... a hell of a lot of women don't agree with the GOP agenda on women's reproductive rights. Or just are angered by a President who is a man who objectifies women as evidenced by his remarks in the Bush tapes, indulging his voyeurism backstage at the Teen Miss America contest, going on Howard Stern and using the old 10 point rating system of women, fat shaming a Miss America winner, thinking that it's OK to grope and kiss women without their permission....I'm sure I've forgotten some things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    "They're not sending their best. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

    Well, there's the 'vilifying part of his own population' part.

    I would put the extreme gerrymandering and 'voter fraud' lies in the category of "backdoor deals to increase their own power."

    Plus, the fact that actual holocaust survivors are making the connection - they should know.
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    Hope That Trump Will Be the Peace President That Obama Was Not

    ​It seems strange that this will be the last time I write you under the presidency of Barack Obama. I recall the slight ray of hope we felt when he took office, after eight years of the crazed neocons who ran Bush's White House. At the time, Dr. Paul had just finished his ground-breaking 2008 presidential run and so much had changed for us in the Congressional office. While we were legally separated from campaign activities, we felt the mist from the waves crashing on the shore of American political life. Ron Paul went from being a widely-admired and principled Member of Congress to the world-renowned ambassador of honest money and non-interventionism! A revolution was born!

    By the 2008 race, Bush and his foreign policy were thoroughly discredited, and Ron Paul offered the strongest opposition to the warmed-over Bushism that the hapless McCain campaign had on offer. Obama had run as the peace candidate, and the peace candidate always wins -- even if he is a liar (see: Woodrow Wilson, FDR, GW Bush, etc.). But while many of us hoped for the best, we also knew there was little chance for us to change course.

    Ron Paul went out with a bang in 2008. He refused to endorse the neocon who won the nomination and instead brought together candidates from the "minor" parties to agree on a basic set of principles upon which this Institute was founded in 2013. It was an excellent parting shot. The McCainiacs in their arrogance bade good riddance to the anti-interventionist wing of the party and...the rest is history (as it was four years later). Did they learn? Of course not.

    So at that time, in 2008, Ron Paul became the steady voice of the non-interventionist movement even as much of the anti-Bush "peace movement" faded into silence hoping that Obama would live up to his Nobel Peace Prize billing. Instead, Obama bombed his way through his final year in the White House as he did the preceding seven years: he dropped an average of three bombs per hour in 2016. That's three per hour, each 24 hours, each 52 weeks, each 12 months. With some admirable exceptions, the Left side of the peace movement went into hibernation for eight years.

    President Obama is going out with a bang, but of an entirely different sort. After he and his surrogates all but accused President-elect Trump of being a Kremlin agent -- bolstered by the "fake news" experts at the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media -- he made a couple of moves in attempt to bind his successor to a confrontational stance regarding Russia. First, he sent thousands of US troops to permanently be stationed in Poland for the first time ever. These troops and military equipment, including hundreds of tanks and so on, are literally on the border with Russia, but any complaint or counter-move is reported by the lapdog media as "Russian aggression." Imagine five thousand Chinese troops with the latest in war-making equipment on the Mexican border with the US, with a few ships in the Gulf of Mexico to boot. Would Washington welcome such a move? Then today we discover that Obama has sent a few hundred US Marines to take up in Norway for the first time since World War II. Of course it's not enough to be a military threat to Russia nor is it enough to actually defend Norway if "Russian expansionism" dictates an invasion. So what is the purpose? To wrong-foot any ideas Trump might have about turning down the nuclear-war-with-Russia dial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Why are there two typos in an attempt at producing widsom that goes viral? "They vilified of part of your own population."

    Vilified has one "L".
    corruption has an "o".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    They would have been twice as effective if it didn't basically say the same thing with worse spelling and grammar. What exactly does this refute?
    "A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.

    Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.

    No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.

    (You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)

    You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
    They would have been twice as effective if it didn't basically say the same thing with worse spelling and grammar. What exactly does this refute?
    It refutes the maker's insistence (if any) that he paid attention in English class, for starters. A spelling error in a post I understand - but don't try to make a meme and get stuff like that wrong. We have spell checkers and stuff, and if you can't think to turn it on, it makes anything else you put down easy to dismiss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    It refutes the maker's insistence (if any) that he paid attention in English class, for starters. A spelling error in a post I understand - but don't try to make a meme and get stuff like that wrong. We have spell checkers and stuff, and if you can't think to turn it on, it makes anything else you put down easy to dismiss.
    The forces of 'curruption' being what they are, the common man must make do! Clearly! I think?

    "A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.

    Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.

    No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.

    (You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)

    You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.

    Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The MunchKING View Post
    corruption has an "o".
    Trump's people use the best words -- their skill with the English language is unpresidented.

    Now I'm trying to find out if there are any rappers named "Currupt"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    At the risk of breaking Godwin's law, Hitler was a populist.

    Hitler won power saying Germany had been betrayed and exploited by corrupt politicians and an international banking system and he would make Germany great again.

    I do not think Trump is Hitler, but I do think Hitler was a populist, not a regular politican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Overlord View Post
    At the risk of breaking Godwin's law, Hitler was a populist.

    Hitler won power saying Germany had been betrayed and exploited by corrupt politicians and an international banking system and he would make Germany great again.

    I do not think Trump is Hitler, but I do think Hitler was a populist, not a regular politican.
    Like Alcibiades and Cleon before him, he is a demagogue and demagogues all pose very different kinds of threats to whatever democratic republic they preside over.

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    "By the first century B.C., the Roman Republic had endured for four centuries and ruled over millions of people around the shores of the Mediterranean. It was far from a perfect democracy, but the citizens of Rome had a real voice in their government in contrast to the kingdoms and autocratic empires elsewhere in the ancient world.

    But times were hard. Decades of economic downslide, threats from the Middle East, and political infighting had left the Roman people weary of the plodding nature of their government. They were ripe for someone to take the reins of power and shake up the business-as-usual attitude of their senate.


    Julius Caesar was a charismatic and unconventional politician who knew what the masses wanted to hear. He used his immense wealth to fight his way to the highest ranks of political power. The old guard politicians of Rome were horrified at his rise and did everything they could to stop him, but nothing worked. The more the establishment spoke against him, the more the common people loved him.

    And so the masses cheered when Caesar crossed the Rubicon River in 49 B.C. and swept away the career politicians. He promised to shake things up and he did, but it wasn’t long before he proclaimed himself dictator for life. He was killed on the Ides of March in 44 B.C.

    But by then it was too late. The structures of republican government had been laid waste and the voice of the people was silenced for the rest of the Roman Empire."


    http://time.com/4375262/history-dema...-donald-trump/
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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Like Alcibiades and Cleon before him, he is a demagogue and demagogues all pose very different kinds of threats to whatever democratic republic they preside over.

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    "By the first century B.C., the Roman Republic had endured for four centuries and ruled over millions of people around the shores of the Mediterranean. It was far from a perfect democracy, but the citizens of Rome had a real voice in their government in contrast to the kingdoms and autocratic empires elsewhere in the ancient world.

    But times were hard. Decades of economic downslide, threats from the Middle East, and political infighting had left the Roman people weary of the plodding nature of their government. They were ripe for someone to take the reins of power and shake up the business-as-usual attitude of their senate.


    Julius Caesar was a charismatic and unconventional politician who knew what the masses wanted to hear. He used his immense wealth to fight his way to the highest ranks of political power. The old guard politicians of Rome were horrified at his rise and did everything they could to stop him, but nothing worked. The more the establishment spoke against him, the more the common people loved him.

    And so the masses cheered when Caesar crossed the Rubicon River in 49 B.C. and swept away the career politicians. He promised to shake things up and he did, but it wasn’t long before he proclaimed himself dictator for life. He was killed on the Ides of March in 44 B.C.

    But by then it was too late. The structures of republican government had been laid waste and the voice of the people was silenced for the rest of the Roman Empire."


    http://time.com/4375262/history-dema...-donald-trump/
    Yeah, but Trump is not Hitler or Caesar, he is more like Silvio Berlusconi, a former Italian Prime Minister, who was a business man with no experience who won due to a populist platform, mired the government in corruption and scandal and made Italy into a laughing stock.

    Eventually he want to prison for a sex crime, I think he may be out now, but is barred from running for public office for six years.

    But yeah, I think America just elected it's own Silvio Berlusconi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Overlord View Post
    Yeah, but Trump is not Hitler, he is more like Silvio Berlusconi, a former Italian Prime Minister, who was a business man with no experience who won due to a populist platform, mired the government in corruption and scandal and made Italy into a laughing stock.

    Eventually he want to prison for a sex crime, I think he may be out now, but is barred from running for public office for six years.

    But yeah, I think America just elected it's own Silvio Berlusconi.
    Trump is his own animal, for better or for worse.

    It's like when Cobra got replaced by Serpentor -- the Republicans have finally found a leader who has combined all the worst genetic traits of past Republican and Democratic candidates.



    "Is Trump a Berlusconi? Or more like Mussolini?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Trump is his own animal, for better or for worse.

    It's like when Cobra got replaced by Serpentor -- the Republicans have finally found a leader who has combined all the worst genetic traits of past Republican and Democratic candidates.

    Sure, but there some similarities between Trump and Silvio Berlusconi. Look the guy up, it's interesting to see the similar styles they had, the same problems with conflicts of interest. We will see if they meet similar ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Overlord View Post
    Sure, but there some similarities between Trump and Silvio Berlusconi. Look the guy up, it's interesting to see the similar styles they had, the same problems with conflicts of interest. We will see if they meet similar ends.
    We can only hope he ends up a footnote buffon rather than a warning to the world for what might be the rest of recorded history.
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