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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Water View Post
    Except, from what I read, the money we gave did not pay for abortions.
    Just contraceptives.
    So to take the 'other's peoples messes' analogy, we are taking the soap away and telling them it's their fault things get dirty.
    Dark does not mean deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    So to take the 'other's peoples messes' analogy, we are taking the soap away and telling them it's their fault things get dirty.
    I don't know about you, but the government doesn't give me soap. I have to buy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    Never said that once. I'm not anti-abortion, I'm anti-tax paid contraceptives and abortion. It's not my job to make sure that you can't have a kid, that's your's.
    even though abortions make up less than 10% of what PP does overall, which is keeping pregnant women healthy.

    but let's focus on abortions.

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    And it is not your damn job to regulate other people's bodies, either, dude.
    "All it takes for sexism to prosper is for good men to see nothing."

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    Bernie Sanders just praised Trump for his executive order to withdraw US from the TPP deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    Then they should seriously reconsider their life choices. It's not the government, nor the taxpayers, responsibility to clean up other's messes.
    It cuts funding to any foreign organization that performs or even discusses abortion . . . even though they already can't us US funds for abortions or literature about abortion without the gag rule.

    This includes all kinds of medical services that are not abortion. So, a hospital may not have the funds it needs to treat all the patients coming in for any of the million things people seek medical help for that aren't abortion.

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    Sean "Baghdad Bob" Spicer had his second press conference as White House Press Secretary, and this time, didn't get to flee like a b**** after chastising the media for doing their jobs.

    He did, however, say something very telling... it's "demoralizing" to the President to see people protesting him and hearing negative stories from the media.

    GOOD. Keep hammering this Fanta-toned douche-canoe until he has a mental breakdown.
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    Why Trump's staff is lying

    First and most obviously, the leader wishes to mislead the public, and wants to have subordinates doing so, in part because many citizens won't pursue fact-checking. But that's the obvious explanation, and the truth runs much deeper.

    By requiring subordinates to speak untruths, a leader can undercut their independent standing, including their standing with the public, with the media and with other members of the administration. That makes those individuals grow more dependent on the leader and less likely to mount independent rebellions against the structure of command. Promoting such chains of lies is a classic tactic when a leader distrusts his subordinates and expects to continue to distrust them in the future.
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    The Trump Administration’s Lies Have Already Ruined Its Credibility

    Late last year Josh Earnest, President Barack Obama’s press secretary, was asked by CNN to offer his successor, Sean Spicer, some advice about how to handle his new job. “Make sure you know where the president’s head’s at,” Earnest said. “Because your ability to faithfully represent his point of view is critically important.” He added, “Honesty and credibility and trustworthiness is the most important part of this job.”
    No less a figure than Spicer himself claimed to grasp this simple distinction when he spoke to students at the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago just two weeks ago. “I’ve never lied,” he said, “and I’d argue that anyone who is an aspiring communicator adhere to that, because if you lose the respect and trust of the press corps, you’ve got nothing.”
    For this to work, Trump’s propaganda strategy has to recruit more support to his side, rather than drive existing support away. He has to assume that his base hasn’t maxed out, and that he can grow it with easily disproved lies.

    Reporters who don’t accommodate Spicer’s ridiculous deceit will thus be highly empowered. Trump’s effort to insulate himself from accountability to his own supporters by discrediting the non-Pravda press is insanely reckless and demoralizing. It would be better if it weren’t happening. But it doesn’t mean the press will be neutralized as a shaper of public opinion. Instead, it’s likely that Trump has made the wrong bet here. The failure of his presidency will stem from assuming that the media will make issue of his lies, but no one will believe us.
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    At White House, Trump tells congressional leaders 3-5 million illegal ballots cost him the popular vote

    He just can't help himself

    Days after being sworn in, President Trump insisted to congressional leaders invited to a reception at the White House that he would have won the popular vote had it not been for millions of illegal votes, according to people familiar with the meeting.

    Trump has repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that widespread voter fraud caused him to lose the popular vote to Hillary Clinton, even while he clinched the presidency with an electoral college victory.

    Two people familiar with the meeting said Trump spent about 10 minutes at the top of the gathering with Republican and Democratic lawmakers rehashing the campaign. Trump also told them that between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused him to lose the popular vote.

    The discussion about Trump's election victory and his claim that he would have won the popular vote was confirmed by a third person familiar with the meeting.
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    Except that is 100% factual. Illegals shouldn't be allowed in the county, much less vote

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    He literally can't help himself, he HAS to say these things. Part of being a compulsive liar is the compulsion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    Except that is 100% factual. Illegals shouldn't be allowed in the county, much less vote
    ...and they don't...

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    Trump to release tax returns after audit

    Uh-oh, now what will you adorable Liberals whine about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    Except that is 100% factual. Illegals shouldn't be allowed in the county, much less vote
    Um, they can't vote. To be honest, do you know how hard it is for many Natural Born Native Legal Citizens of the United States to Vote? If some states have been taking away voting privileges from American Citizens, there is no way a Non-Citizen could vote.

    And Immigrants are not Illegals, they are Undocumented. Without Documentation, they can't vote.
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