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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    "I don't care about employment, i want African children to die for my cheap iPhones!"

    Yeah, this is why globalisation is failing.

    It's not just the iPhones. It's pretty much everything. Manufacturing in the US is just more expensive than anywhere else. American workers would have to be willing to take huge pay cuts to make it viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanpaul123 View Post
    can you explain further ?
    Its already explained in the original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanpaul123 View Post
    Yeah but with the fear of the ACA being remove people will start saving more of their money instead of spending it dont you think ? so i really dont see a raise of the MW in a near future in US
    Well, that's a problem you only get when you elect deatheaters who want to legismate the entire country into poverty and don't even want the concept of minimum wage to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Trump himself hires foreign workers to tend his vineyards and manufactures many of his products overseas -- shouldn't he be leading by example?
    That's where you're right. He's gonna make those 7 million illegal citizens into legal Americans not to be exploitable by corporations again.

    he'll deport the 3-4 million prisoners sucking you tax money though.

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    CNN/ORC Poll: Confidence drops in Trump transition

    Washington (CNN)Donald Trump will become president Friday with an approval rating of just 40%, according to a new CNN/ORC Poll, the lowest of any recent president and 44 points below that of President Barack Obama, the 44th president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    That's where you're right. He's gonna make those 7 million illegal citizens into legal Americans....
    So you're saying he's not planning to run for a second term?

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    Rust belt will vote for him as President as long as he gets them the jobs.

    + Don't spread the "Minorities hate Trump" meme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Well, that's a problem you only get when you elect deatheaters who want to legismate the entire country into poverty and don't even want the concept of minimum wage to exist.
    And one of those deatheaters is Trump's choice for Secretary of Labor who's a staunch hater of the minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yes, because the jobs would not operate in the US like they do in China with these terrible conditions. We have different standards and regulations here.
    Sure. That means higher wages and operating costs.
    That is added to the price of the product you're manufacturing.
    That leads to an increase in price.
    That's how you get more expensive groceries, foodstuffs and manufactured goods. Sure, they are "American Made" but they cost more because they were made by American hands.

    People don't like paying a lot for stuff, that's why they shop around for places with cheaper labor and lower costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drz View Post
    Rust belt will vote for him as President as long as he gets them the jobs.

    + Don't spread the "Minorities hate Trump" meme.
    This is the part you don't get: those jobs will never materialize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo Méndez View Post
    Sure. That means higher wages and operating costs.
    That is added to the price of the product you're manufacturing.
    That leads to an increase in price.
    That's how you get more expensive groceries, foodstuffs and manufactured goods. Sure, they are "American Made" but they cost more because they were made by American hands.

    People don't like paying a lot for stuff, that's why they shop around for places with cheaper labor and lower costs.
    Yeah but didnt Trump say something about lowering taxes or giving benefits to Companies who operated in US? I am not sure if that would be enough to stop the increase of prices because they are manufacture in US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanpaul123 View Post
    Yeah but didnt Trump say something about lowering taxes or giving benefits to Companies who operated in US? I am not sure if that would be enough to stop the increase of prices because they are manufacture in US.
    Then where is the profit, if it's going to be the same? Lower taxes means the govermnent isn't getting his cut.

    It's going to be interesting to see the big "if" that is Trump making good on all the promises. So far, I see a swamp increasing in size and depth and a Trump coffer about to be filled to the brim...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanpaul123 View Post
    Yeah but didnt Trump say something about lowering taxes or giving benefits to Companies who operated in US? I am not sure if that would be enough to stop the increase of prices because they are manufacture in US.
    Do you honestly expect these companies who have ramped up CEO pay by 90% would allow any of those breaks to 'trickle down' to the workers?

    You should really look into Trickle Down economics and educate yourself on why it has never worked. It's a quick google search away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo Méndez View Post
    That leads to an increase in price.
    Yea, underpinning discussions of outsourcing, etc is the very very difficult question of jobs vs prices, what is a society willing to do enjoy low prices for products. Are their limits? A nation's trade policies and laws...to what ends, what balance between these tensions?
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