trinity triangle?

[kidstandout]

last night i got to thinking about forever evil #7, and i couldn't help but think of what johns said a while back that when smww ends, it will end badly. let me just say that if they end it with a love triangle between the trinity, dc will have killed superman for me.

now i have my opinions and preferences when it comes to who supes dates, but if this happens we all lose and here is why.

1 it's not bad enough that dc has gone out of there way to prop up batman at superman's expense with the dark knight returns? now you want batman to steal his girl too?
2 having this plot play out would destroy the friendship between them, these are the two people that are closest to clark outside of lois, lana, jimmy and perry
3 any one who dates clark after diana will suffer from having to deal with this drama, further reminding me that it happened.
4 with how little faith dc has in superman compared to bats as demonstrated by him getting top billing in supermans own movie, this would leave a lasting impression that will tarnish the brand.

at this point, i really don't care about shipping, don't ruin superman johns. i can live with clois coming back if it doesn't mean destroying superman's relationship with the trinity. and let's not even begin to mention how damaging this would be for ww

[Sacred Knight]

Its obviously grown to the point where its not just Johns story anymore, so I wouldn't put all the stock in that old quote of his anymore. For all intents and purposes, Charles Soule is the caretaker of this relationship/story now. He's done more with it than Johns many times over to this point. And his work is selling, and money talks. If Johns wants to throw a goofy wrench in it, I'm just hopeful he respects all characters involved enough to not turn it into an ongoing Scott/Jean/Logan thing. I'm still hopeful that the only purpose its going to serve is to create some drama in Clark and Bruce's friendship and eventually everyone will get over it, nothing more than that.

[Lexrules]

I personally think it was a terrible mistake to have Superman and Wonder Woman date. It will lead only to hurting both fan bases in the end and for the characters having them lose the dynamics that has worked between to 2 for over 70 years.

Stirring the pot is not always a good thing as The New 52 has shown time and time again. But this is the bed we now lie in. I think the damage of the fall out will far outweighs those who wanted to see the what if.

[Sacred Knight]

I would think them having their own book and that book being successful is evidence that it turned out to be a worth taking, not a terrible mistake.

[Lexrules]

I would think them having their own book and that book being successful is evidence that it turned out to be a worth taking, not a terrible mistake.

Sure in the short term but what about long lasting problems this will cause the characters if and when the break up does come. Eventually we will get back to the status que for both characters so where will this leave the friendship and dynamics of them working together after the story runs it's course.

This is a major problem with comics today, Short term bursts of storytelling with no planning out for the future repercussions to both character and fan base.

[Blacksun]

Johns has been too much into CW first Arrow, now Flash...poor guy.

but seriously if he can do batman and wonder woman without getting too much drama, good. Superman will stay out of JL, will work in daily planet and lois will be there. he will reconnect with lois, so who knows. Johns seems to be setuping something like that superman start something with lois and when he decide to break up with WW she is already on other

that won't be ever a love triangle

I personally think it was a terrible mistake to have Superman and Wonder Woman date. It will lead only to hurting both fan bases in the end and for the characters having them lose the dynamics that has worked between to 2 for over 70 years.

Stirring the pot is not always a good thing as The New 52 has shown time and time again. But this is the bed we now lie in. I think the damage of the fall out will far outweighs those who wanted to see the what if.

well you have few fans and you split it, the result can't be good. superman numbers were pretty much weak.
and supes and ww relationship totally threw Lois under the bus

[kidstandout]

I personally think it was a terrible mistake to have Superman and Wonder Woman date. It will lead only to hurting both fan bases in the end and for the characters having them lose the dynamics that has worked between to 2 for over 70 years.

Stirring the pot is not always a good thing as The New 52 has shown time and time again. But this is the bed we now lie in. I think the damage of the fall out will far outweighs those who wanted to see the what if.

look let's just not go there for the sake of the thread. the point i'm trying to make is that this will bury superman if this happens, smww being responsible for it is not only irrelevant but very assuming.

[Lexrules]

look let's just not go there for the sake of the thread. the point i'm trying to make is that this will bury superman if this happens, smww being responsible for it is not only irrelevant but very assuming.

That's fine. If it does happen I hope you find something you like to stay on board.

[kidstandout]

Johns has been too much into CW first Arrow, now Flash...poor guy.

but seriously if he can do batman and wonder woman without getting too much drama, good. Superman will stay out of JL, will work in daily planet and lois will be there. he will reconnect with lois, so who knows. Johns seems to be setuping something like that superman start something with lois and when he decide to break up with WW she is already on other

that won't be ever a love triangle



well you have few fans and you split it, the result can't be good. superman numbers were pretty much weak.
and supes and ww relationship totally threw Lois under the bus

with how crappy he has handled ww do you really think johns has the chops to pull that off? completely ignoring how bad of an idea, especially now, it would be to make bmww cannon johns can't write ww or batman to save his life.

[DochaDocha]

Something about the idea of "Trinity" rubs me the wrong way. I'm not sure I can explain what it is exactly, but making a book about all three characters for some reason doesn't appeal to me. Maybe it's because it's like making a subset of the Justice League. Maybe it's the lack of symmetry (as in historically, there's one 2-person subset that's historically super-significant, one that's kind of significant, and one that's comparatively insignificant). I don't know, but when DC tries to make them the Three Amigos, or Alvin and the Chipmunks, or the Three Tenors, I'm generally thinking, "Yeah whatever." It's not as though I dislike any of the characters, but for as contrived as the Justice League is (and it is, if you're really being honest), this is doubly or triply contrived.

Making a love triangle? That would be taking an idea I'm not fond of, and mixing it in with an even worse idea.

[Francisco]

BMWW is not going to happen. Stop salivating

[kidstandout]

That's fine. If it does happen i hope you find something you like to stay on board.

well i wouldn't leave supes if it did, but the lasting damage would be very hard for me to overcome. i honestly hope none of this happens, i really do. like sacred said, if there has to be a fallout, could we atleast leave them their dignity?

[Blacksun]

with how crappy he has handled ww do you really think johns has the chops to pull that off? completely ignoring how bad of an idea, especially now, it would be to make bmww cannon johns can't write ww or batman to save his life.

it's better than what he said last year that smww will end badly. Johns ultimately has not doing a good JL, he was too much on love with luthor for it. now that luthor is on league maybe he can do something better. if smww will end I prefer with less drama, both going for other people in peace.

[kidstandout]

it's better than what he said last year that smww will end badly. Johns ultimately has not doing a good JL, he was too much on love with luthor for it. now that luthor is on league maybe he can do something better. if smww will end I prefer with less drama, both going for other people in peace.

based on the stuff he has written with them before as well as the next storyline heavily featuring lex, i highly doubt that. but i agree with your last sentence, just not WHO they decide to go for afterwards. clark goes for lois? why not they have a history. diana and bruce? hell to the no

[Black Angel]

BMWW is not going to happen. Stop salivating

exactly my sentiments