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    after watching "Love & Friendship" (which was fun) I decided to tackle "the Last Days of Disco". funny stuff. "the Lady and the Tramp" argument was one of many favorite moments. that monologue that Chris Eigeman gets in the back of the cab about "to thine own self be true" was also a favorite. Kate Beckinsale looked gorgeous back then. she still looks great, but it seems like she's had some work done on her face.... which is bewildering, because she seems like one of those women where it was never necessary in the first place!

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    So many Shaw Brothers movies, most of them awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Warp Spasm View Post
    So many Shaw Brothers movies, most of them awesome.
    Which ones?

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    Spud III : Learning to Fly - It was ok I guess - I had to watch the series because it's so local/regional to where I come from but I'm sure they are a poor adaptation of the books. It's amazing how Troye Sivan / Caspar Lee have become such phenomena now.

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    The last film I remember watching was Princess Bride which I watched the other day (I think I've seen couple others since but they escape me at the moment) and I'd give that a solid 9/10 or 4,5/5 or whatever.

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    The biggest problem with A Serbian Flim is how unreal it gets. The first half is perfection, it's horror is derived from the feeling that anything could happen. The second half is where it truly runs into problems. The big scene you've probably hear of from the movie, (the baby scene) it played like farce, it's more like weird comedy instead of horror, and that pretty much kills a movie that was all about, at least until that point, the feeling that anything could happen. It doesn't ever get better after the baby scene; which plays like a rape joke middle schoolers might tell to be shocking, the baby looks like the mutant killer baby from It's Alive. Beside it feeling like it because some dark comedy at that point, the way in which the movie plays out hurts it. It because like the Hangover after the middle part, where we're trying to understand what happened to the main character the night before...which kills what it's going for, because it's a flashback, not matter what they show happens to the main character, you know he's going to be ok because your following him very much ok as he's looking back. But despite the latter half of the movie kind of sucking, it's still some what interesting in that it kind of because a superhero movie in its shiity second half. It's weird, but in the second half the main character kind of because a superhero, and his superpower is his cock. His sexual prowess come up in the first half of the movie, but in the second half of the movie the main character literally kills a person with his dick.

    Anyways. I only brought up A Serbian Flim because like 8mm it's also about someone who gets dragged into this horrible underground world of snuff. Only in A Serbian Film your following a porno actor who get sucked into this world because he needs money.

    Kill List is a lot like A Serbian Flim, only with Lovecraft. Overall I'd say Kill List is the better movie, but it never gets to the highs of the first half of A Serbian Film.

    I haven't seen Hardcore since I was in like middle or early high school, but it was a movie I loved back than, and it has a lot in common with 8mm.

    At the moment I'm kind of drunk, so if anything doesn't quite make sense just ask me about it. But anywAy, I'd say A Serbian Flim, despite its failing in the second half of the movie (which are still kind of interesting because of the superhero angle) is something worth watching if your into films. It's got big problems, you might not finds anything in the second half funny (and I'm not even 100% sure the fucked up **** is the second half is truely meant to be funny) but because of its highs it's something worth watching I'd say.
    Man, that is some praise for what is (IMHO) a shitty film. It was made to be intentionally shocking and to be some kind of statement of Serbian politics or whatever so naturally it doesn't even manage to deliver its message to anyone who is not Serbian since we don't even have much context to it and its message, though I doubt even most Serbians would commend it for its poignant commentary on Serbian politics. Mostly it just came off like the director just wanted to make as shocking a film as he could and that's it. I've seen some people even get angry or offended by it because of its blatant attempts to merely shock people (and do nothing else) but personally I couldn't even get offended by it (then again I very rarely get offended by anything and have a pretty dark & twisted sense of humor sometimes). I just mostly found it to be really boring. You can only rely on the shock factor so much and your movie needs more than that to be good. Serbian film however didn't really have anything beyond that and a vague message about Serbian politics which obviously were lost on me since I'm not Serbian. And the ending was pretty fucking depressing too so if someone is not a fan of sad endings (they don't bother me) or necrophilia then they definitely shouldn't watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherFan View Post
    The last film I remember watching was Princess Bride which I watched the other day (I think I've seen couple others since but they escape me at the moment) and I'd give that a solid 9/10 or 4,5/5 or whatever.


    Man, that is some praise for what is (IMHO) a shitty film. It was made to be intentionally shocking and to be some kind of statement of Serbian politics or whatever so naturally it doesn't even manage to deliver its message to anyone who is not Serbian since we don't even have much context to it and its message, though I doubt even most Serbians would commend it for its poignant commentary on Serbian politics. Mostly it just came off like the director just wanted to make as shocking a film as he could and that's it. I've seen some people even get angry or offended by it because of its blatant attempts to merely shock people (and do nothing else) but personally I couldn't even get offended by it (then again I very rarely get offended by anything and have a pretty dark & twisted sense of humor sometimes). I just mostly found it to be really boring. You can only rely on the shock factor so much and your movie needs more than that to be good. Serbian film however didn't really have anything beyond that and a vague message about Serbian politics which obviously were lost on me since I'm not Serbian. And the ending was pretty fucking depressing too so if someone is not a fan of sad endings (they don't bother me) or necrophilia then they definitely shouldn't watch it.
    Here's the thing, the whole first half of the movie, it's pretty damn perfect. The first half of the movie isn't about being shocking at all, it's about building an atmosphere that anything at any moment could happen...and until the movie pisses that away in the middle of the movie with a scene that doesn't even work, well, up until than it was great.

    Most people who get mad about the movie probably haven't even seen the movie. They're always talking about the baby scene in the middle of the movie, the scene TV Tropes talks about, and while you can use that scene to mark when the movie goes down hill, it's by no means the most shocking thing in the movie given the tone at the time. That scene could have been played for shocking horror, which is how most people who probably haven't seen the movie talk about it, but it plays more like shock comedy. And when this fantastic horror movie becomes a stupid comedy that isn't really funny...that sucked. The movie like, basically becomes The Hangover after that, and drains all the tension out of it. Now you know the main character is going to be ok, because now you're just watching him try to figure out what he did the night before, and he's alive, so any danger from the night before you know he's going to make it out of.

    The second half doesn't work, but there's too much good in the first half to ever call it a shitty movie. Most horror movies wish they could build the atmosphere the first half of that movie does. Kill List, (which I'm pretty sure wouldn't be a thing without A Serbian Flim) while that movie is overall better, it wishes it could hit some of the highs of A Serbian Flim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    Here's the thing, the whole first half of the movie, it's pretty damn perfect. The first half of the movie isn't about being shocking at all, it's about building an atmosphere that anything at any moment could happen...and until the movie pisses that away in the middle of the movie with a scene that doesn't even work, well, up until than it was great.

    Most people who get mad about the movie probably haven't even seen the movie. They're always talking about the baby scene in the middle of the movie, the scene TV Tropes talks about, and while you can use that scene to mark when the movie goes down hill, it's by no means the most shocking thing in the movie given the tone at the time. That scene could have been played for shocking horror, which is how most people who probably haven't seen the movie talk about it, but it plays more like shock comedy. And when this fantastic horror movie becomes a stupid comedy that isn't really funny...that sucked. The movie like, basically becomes The Hangover after that, and drains all the tension out of it. Now you know the main character is going to be ok, because now you're just watching him try to figure out what he did the night before, and he's alive, so any danger from the night before you know he's going to make it out of.

    The second half doesn't work, but there's too much good in the first half to ever call it a shitty movie. Most horror movies wish they could build the atmosphere the first half of that movie does. Kill List, (which I'm pretty sure wouldn't be a thing without A Serbian Flim) while that movie is overall better, it wishes it could hit some of the highs of A Serbian Flim.
    Wait... what? Have you actually seen the film? Spoilers: He's not going to be okay. He's going to be fucking dead. Along with his whole family. And their bodies are going to be raped by some guys who want to shoot necrophiliac porn. I wouldn't call that being ok.

    And I do know people who got angry at the movie and also actually watched it and didn't just read the tv tropes page or something.

    Personally I think that calling this movie art is like if I went out to murder someone, then fucked their corpse and took a dump on it and then after filming all of this I would make a movie out of it and I'm sure there would be at least one person who would be there defending it as a great and deep artsy film that has commentary on some difficult social issues or something when in actuality there was nothing deep behind it since it was just me doing nasty stuff for shits and giggles.

    And even if the film does manage to get the audience to fear for the main character in the first half (I can sort of see where you are coming from with this) it's all for nothing if the second half ruins it and then it will be nothing more but a film that seemingly tries too hard to be shocking and nothing more. Besides the director himself pretty much admitted that the film was made to be shocking for the sake of it to draw attention to the issues he wanted to comment on. So yeah, it was made to be shocking just to be shocking. And that doesn't make it a good film. But whatever, if you see worth in it then I guess, whatever... Good for you? I just found it to be terribly boring attempt to shock people more than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherFan View Post
    Wait... what? Have you actually seen the film? Spoilers: He's not going to be okay. He's going to be fucking dead. Along with his whole family. And their bodies are going to be raped by some guys who want to shoot necrophiliac porn. I wouldn't call that being ok.
    Yes, but that's the very end of the movie you're talking about. I was talking about everything from the middle of the movie going up to that ending. What I'm saying is the second half of the movie unfolds in a way which undermines what it's trying to do at that moment. That part plays mostly in flashback, and because we can see he's ok in the present, we know when we see him in danger in the flashback that he'll be ok.


    And I do know people who got angry at the movie and also actually watched it and didn't just read the tv tropes page or something.
    That's cool.

    Personally I think that calling this movie art is like if I went out to murder someone, then fucked their corpse and took a dump on it and then after filming all of this I would make a movie out of it and I'm sure there would be at least one person who would be there defending it as a great and deep artsy film that has commentary on some difficult social issues or something when in actuality there was nothing deep behind it since it was just me doing nasty stuff for shits and giggles.

    And even if the film does manage to get the audience to fear for the main character in the first half (I can sort of see where you are coming from with this) it's all for nothing if the second half ruins it and then it will be nothing more but a film that seemingly tries too hard to be shocking and nothing more. Besides the director himself pretty much admitted that the film was made to be shocking for the sake of it to draw attention to the issues he wanted to comment on. So yeah, it was made to be shocking just to be shocking. And that doesn't make it a good film. But whatever, if you see worth in it then I guess, whatever... Good for you? I just found it to be terribly boring attempt to shock people more than anything else.
    Well, I didn't call it art. But, you know, you going out and murdering people would be pretty different from this make believe work of fiction in which the filmmakers didn't actually kill people. I'm sure there's so point tied up into that ramble, but you aren't making it, and it had nothing to do with anything I said anyways.

    The first half does more than get you to fear for the main character, it creates an atomphere of fear around the character. Something as simple as him talking with his son about sex has tension built into it, it feels dangerous because of what we've seen of that main character, and the world he's in. That it created an atmosphere that most horror movies wish they could create is in fact interesting. Most good movies never get to the high points of tension building A Serbian Film does in that first half. That it does that thing so well, even if it pisses it away later, doesn't undo the skill that went into it. For some bizarre reason you're acting like I'm saying its some perfect film...I didn't say that.

    I didn't say the movie was good because it's trying to be shocking, in fact, I even said the part where the film is trying to be shocking is when it goes do hill and stops being good. You don't have to tell me it's not good simply because it trying to be shocking, that's a reply to something that was never said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batnbreakfast View Post
    Dying to watch this one. Envy you

    Is this the wrong place to discuss 8mm or does nobody care
    I remember liking 8mm when it came out but it's been awhile since I saw it

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    Quote Originally Posted by batnbreakfast View Post
    Oh, about Zootopia... when do audiences finally get sick of that cute animated formulaic crap?
    Probably no time soon. Audiences have enjoyed cute animated animals since the beginning of film.

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    Just watched Goosebumps with Jack Black, and it was cute. And I have to say, it was the first film with Jack Black that I didn't hate him in it. An enjoyable, mindless little film.

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    Saw Deadpool. It was ok. Two and half stars.

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    I was the first few minutes of Deadpool, I'm not sure I'm going to watch the rest. From the tiny bit I saw I'm not really sure I get the love, didn't seem funny. But I do still kind of want to see it just to see the whole thing.

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    I watched London Has Fallen today. It's a blood, bodies and bullets action flick with a thin plot and cardboard bad guys but I still did enjoy it for what it was.
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    Pitch Perfect 2 - despite some fun moments was rather mediocre

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