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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    Actually, Roshi's hulk out mode IS a transformation. He rarely uses it, because the max power form reduces his speed and stamina for more blast power. However, he does use a lesser version of it during his battle against Tien, he just doesn't to with hulk level big muscles
    Actually, I thought it was simply showing that Roshi at that point was actually at his A-Game since he actually trained his body secretly for this tournament.

    But yeah, the only times he hulks out are times for sure he needed the firepower to really blow something off the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    Actually, Roshi's hulk out mode IS a transformation. He rarely uses it, because the max power form reduces his speed and stamina for more blast power. However, he does use a lesser version of it during his battle against Tien, he just doesn't to with hulk level big muscles
    As someone who has read the fight a few weeks ago, he doesn't.

    Mind you, I can buy it being similar to the bulk-up trick Trunks and later Cell used.
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    It should be noted that, since controlling the AoE of their high powered attacks specifically a thing that is repeatedly shown and explicitly mentioned and most of the characters don't want or need to cause indiscriminate damage on that scale, the only good guy other than Roshi and Piccolo to anywhere near moonbusting or greater damage with an attack (outside of Filler) would be Mr. Buu, by proxy. Even the guys that are light years beyond causal planet busters like Form 1 Frieza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    As someone who has read the fight a few weeks ago, he doesn't.

    Mind you, I can buy it being similar to the bulk-up trick Trunks and later Cell used.
    I may have been misinformed by the DB wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    It should be noted that, since controlling the AoE of their high powered attacks specifically a thing that is repeatedly shown and explicitly mentioned and most of the characters don't want or need to cause indiscriminate damage on that scale, the only good guy other than Roshi and Piccolo to anywhere near moonbusting or greater damage with an attack (outside of Filler) would be Mr. Buu, by proxy. Even the guys that are light years beyond causal planet busters like Form 1 Frieza.
    Argument: Vegeta spends at least half the series fighting on the side of the angels, even if he's not a classic "good guy," and for most of that, he is a full-on good guy, if arrogant. And he offs a planet on panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Argument: Vegeta spends at least half the series fighting on the side of the angels, even if he's not a classic "good guy," and for most of that, he is a full-on good guy, if arrogant. And he offs a planet on panel.
    Arlia was only in the anime filler. In the manga, he threatened to blow up the Earth unless Goku intercepted his Gallic Gun, and almost blew up Namek with his desperate attack on Frieza, but he never actually succeeded in either case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Arlia was only in the anime filler. In the manga, he threatened to blow up the Earth unless Goku intercepted his Gallic Gun, and almost blew up Namek with his desperate attack on Frieza, but he never actually succeeded in either case.
    Ah, that's right.

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    The Red Ribbon Army

    Plus the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai

    Strength:

    8 punches General White really, really far away:
    http://i.imgur.com/Smnw7.jpg

    Blue crushes a phone booth:
    http://i.imgur.com/c9gQR.jpg

    The distance from the Red Ribbon Army HQ to Karin is 2300 Km. Tao can throw a pillar all the way there:
    http://i.imgur.com/WScw2.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/XnEaj.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/Fx2J2.jpg

    Krillin judo tosses a giant guy:
    http://i.imgur.com/9xM6C7Y.png
    http://i.imgur.com/W7y0EOT.png

    Durability:

    Blue's plane crashes into a mountain. Blue survives this with minimal damage:
    http://i.imgur.com/bcQyo.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/0UdyT.jpg

    Blue gets headbutted all the way to Egypt:
    http://i.imgur.com/LgWe6.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/GJzmc.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/U0m6q.jpg

    Bora tanks Bullets:
    http://i.imgur.com/AvZOq.jpg

    Goku gets hit by a Rocket Launcher:
    http://i.imgur.com/otaZa.jpg

    Speed

    Goku blocks machine gun fire with his staff:
    http://i.imgur.com/oNeIF.jpg

    Roshi catches bullets. Several of them:
    http://i.imgur.com/kQRty.jpg

    Tao claims he can do the trip from the RR HQ to Karin and back in 30 minutes:
    http://i.imgur.com/WScw2.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/XnEaj.jpg

    Given that it takes him all of one conversation between Goku and Bora to do this, he's not exaggerating. Assuming 15 minutes for each trip, the speed of his thrown pillar is around Mach 7.5. Given that Tao has to catch up to the pillar after throwing it, he's even faster.

    During his training in Karin Tower, Goku goes from taking nearly a day to climb the tower to taking three hours to do a round trip:
    http://i.imgur.com/Bhgo6.jpg

    After a wish is made the dragon balls scatter all over the world. Goku is able to catch the 4 Star Dragon Ball before it gets away:
    http://i.imgur.com/AKvxeH6.png
    http://i.imgur.com/QJ3mLYi.png

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    Energy Attacks

    Kamehameha

    Goku uses one to fry a giant octopus:
    http://i.imgur.com/IXJkp.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/0deGn.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/hpdcr.jpg

    Goku also uses a Kamehameha to propel Roshi's submarine from a cave in the ocean all the way to the surface:
    http://i.imgur.com/l4QsQ.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/Uamio.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/0oXVo.jpg

    As shown by Goku, the Kamehameha can be fired rather quickly:
    http://i.imgur.com/qUBqAee.png

    Roshi uses it to blast Master Shen very far away. Curiously enough it looks like he is able to curve it:
    http://i.imgur.com/Jc4fWc4.png
    http://i.imgur.com/FUYeXLz.png
    http://i.imgur.com/p6yIYQj.png

    Dodonpa - A focused beam of Ki shot from the finger

    Tao Pai Pai was the first to use the technique:
    http://i.imgur.com/S9M7E.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/VfkHA.jpg

    As shown by Chiaotzu the attack is easily spammed:
    http://i.imgur.com/RLMsbEF.png

    When properly powered up, it can make a rather big explosion:
    http://i.imgur.com/xd2mb1j.jpg

    Tien's Cancel: A technique that allows Tien to bounce back Yamcha's Kamehameha:
    http://i.imgur.com/98aVQ2m.png
    http://i.imgur.com/w2EuzEY.png
    http://i.imgur.com/9DMRXDg.png
    http://i.imgur.com/fvE7qDl.png

    Solar Flare: A technique that uses Ki to create a blinding light:
    http://i.imgur.com/fIYjXQq.png
    http://i.imgur.com/3o5d7cA.png

    Shiyoken: Not exactly an energy blast. Rather, it's a technique that allow Tien to grow extra arms:
    http://i.imgur.com/o2mnJq7.jpg

    Tri-Beam: A technique that uses a large amount of energy to the point of being harmful to the user. One of the first examples of focused damage. Tien uses it to the destroy the ring and only the ring:
    http://i.imgur.com/LywIcmp.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/AMkAYEi.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/YD0rQfj.jpg

    Red Ribbon Army's Technology

    Red Ribbon Army Robot #1: A robot found by Goku in one of the Capsules the Red Ribbon Army soldiers had. It showed no combat abilities, however it was capable of flying airplanes and it's AI seems rather advanced:
    http://i.imgur.com/aAh2M.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/mB8nI.jpg

    Major Metallitron: An android made by the Red Ribbon Army. It was able to give Goku a rather tough time until it ran out of batteries.

    It can shoot missiles from its mouth:
    http://i.imgur.com/c9CAi.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/ytmDN.jpg

    It's also capable of performing a Rocket Punch:
    http://i.imgur.com/VOd4v.jpg

    Android #8: Actually a cyborg going by the Frankenstein look he has going for him. He's self-aware and has a strong sense of justice. He's also really strong as seen by his feat in the Strength section. Like future Androids that will appear later on, he comes with a self-destruct device.

    The Red Ribbon Army's Dragon Radar: Considerably larger and less efficient than the one created by Bulma. Nevertheless, it allows them to detect the Dragon Balls spread all over the world:
    http://i.imgur.com/gT3CZ.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/H5t8C.jpg

    Black's Battle Jacket: Seemingly the strongest weapon of the Red Ribbon Army. It possessed powerful lasers and is able to hurt Goku with its strength. It's strongest weapon is a missile capable of blowing up the top part of a mountain:
    http://i.imgur.com/su75T.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/ZlkZr.jpg

    Other Tech

    Capsule Corp Robot Maid: Because why not? Seems to be as advanced as the Red Ribbon Robot that Goku used to fly a plane:
    http://i.imgur.com/c1GYj.jpg

    Shrinking Device: One of Bulma's inventions. It allows her to shrink to a really small size:
    http://i.imgur.com/GuIzE.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/SQfhY.jpg

    Roshi's Submarine: It can fly in the sky and dive in to the ocean:
    http://i.imgur.com/9rpsh.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/LZMjL.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/9ETni.jpg

    Ancient Pirate Robot: Exactly what the name implies. It has swords, guns, and an electric tail:
    http://i.imgur.com/gb19T.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/ioKe7.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/s49Wd.jpg

    Bulma's Surveillance Robot: Built using spare parts inRoshi's house, Bulma uses this robot to track and keep an eye on Goku. It's faster than Goku's Flying Nimbus:
    http://i.imgur.com/7dz3X.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/u7xLU.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/PutN3.jpg

    Edit: Make that three posts.
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    Other

    Flying Nimbus: It is hit by a missile and seemingly destroyed. However, it is later revealed to be alright despite the damage done to it:
    http://i.imgur.com/s4sWk.jpg

    Goku's Sense of Smell: It is good enough to detect Bulma is approaching:
    http://i.imgur.com/z1EtS.jpg

    Blue's Telekinesis: A special type of telekinesis used by General Blue. He can control anything in his line of sight. He can use this power to paralyze people:
    http://i.imgur.com/sdgei.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/RsXbl.jpg

    Even guys like Goku:
    http://i.imgur.com/nkwtG.jpg

    He can also use it to control inanimate objects like ropes:
    http://i.imgur.com/xhT4z.jpg

    Devilmite Beam: Supposedly an attack that uses the evil inside a person to make them explode. Since it has only been used against Goku, it sadly lacks any feats due to Goku's pure hearted status:
    http://i.imgur.com/yEJHp.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/TuAPW.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/5kCLZ.jpg

    Uranai Baba's Divination: Using her crystal ball, she is able to find many things. Even a dragon ball hidden for the radar:
    http://i.imgur.com/aN05Uws.png
    http://i.imgur.com/BTLnYGw.png

    She also has a level of foresight:
    http://i.imgur.com/wIG72zi.png

    She can also freely move between the living world and the afterlife and brings back talented martial artists to fight for her:
    http://i.imgur.com/lHDVBmk.png

    Dragon Balls: For the First time Shen Long is used to bring back a person back to life:
    http://i.imgur.com/nQ6YO1a.png
    http://i.imgur.com/V8tGdrR.png

    Chiaotzu's Psychic Powers: He is able to control the numbers the people draw to decide the matches:
    http://i.imgur.com/0mqO5oq.png
    http://i.imgur.com/2PC1fIc.png
    http://i.imgur.com/NIrDNVp.png

    He can also give a person a strong stomach ache:
    http://i.imgur.com/VBoJuK2.jpg

    And is able to do something to Goku during critical moments of his match with Tien:
    http://i.imgur.com/Wv7Q196.png

    Flight: A technique that allows a person to fly in the air. First used by Master Shen's disciples:
    http://i.imgur.com/9wdH41p.png
    http://i.imgur.com/240teL5.png

    Hypnosis: Once again used by Roshi. This time to make someone believe Krillin's head was the moon:
    http://i.imgur.com/fLiDiY7.png

    Telepathy: Used by Master Shen and his disciples:
    http://i.imgur.com/eqvg7ac.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/lwnaSNV.png

    After Images: A more solid variation is used from this Tournament onward:
    http://i.imgur.com/ktkqEWQ.png
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    I wish Broly was canon.

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    I don't.
    He was the most annoying villain ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    I don't.
    He was the most annoying villain ever.
    He had so much potential but they wasted it IMO.

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    didn't a dragonball also save Goku from the Dodonpa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    didn't a dragonball also save Goku from the Dodonpa?
    Yes, also update in 5 or so minutes.
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