Superman #43 - Preview

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

http://www.newsarama.com/25637-clark...3-preview.html

[Auguste Dupin]

And now, at long last, the question we have long been wondering has finally been answered: Clark does, in fact, have a big penis.
Ho, and also Lois makes the decision....to keep Clark's double identity a secret. Which is interesting, considering that we know she won't, so I guess something will happen and change her mind.

[misslane]

And now, at long last, the question we have long been wondering has finally been answered: Clark does, in fact, have a big penis.

Universally consistent.

[Auguste Dupin]

Universally consistent.

Yeah, I didn't exactly had doubts. Goes with the whole "manly attractive hero" archetype.

[Sacred Knight]

Very, very nice. Really appreciate this heartfelt time for the Lois and Clark, it's the first we've had in a long time, and probably the strongest emotional panels of them since the reboot. And of course it manages to make the circumstances behind the article even more intriguing, as we see a Lois intent on keeping his secret here, as most people would consider quite in character. So what changes? Still think it has to be a situation where not publishing the article would quite literally cost Clark his life.

[misslane]

Very, very nice. Really appreciate this heartfelt time for the Lois and Clark, it's the first we've had in a long time, and probably the strongest emotional panels of them since the reboot.

I disagree. I thought Lois and Clark had two powerful emotional scenes during the two times she was infected by psionic power: Psi-War and Doomed.

Lois, no. Stay with me! What a wild afternoon. I was in everybody’s heads! So many…so many stories…beautiful stories…in this city…! You’re not going anywhere, Lois. Listen to me. Listen to my voice! Your voice…Clark’s voice…never realized ‘til now…the same…Does that make me…a lousy reporter…? No, Lois. You’re a brilliant reporter…but more than that…you are what you’ve always been…my best friend. – Superman v3 #24



They shared some emotional moments in "Unchained" as well.

And of course it manages to make the circumstances behind the article even more intriguing, as we see a Lois intent on keeping his secret here, as most people would consider quite in character. So what changes? Still think it has to be a situation where not publishing the article would quite literally cost Clark his life.

I'd be inclined to agree if the post-reveal plots had been handled differently. I have a hard time reconciling Lois' regret in the FCBD "Divergence" issue and the distance between Lois and Clark in Batman/Superman with the idea that Lois only did what she did to save Clark's life.

[brettc1]

Interesting double standard from the girl with the glasses.

Nice to see that moment between Lois and Clark.

[DochaDocha]

I'm less optimistic now that this issue will answer the only question from this arc that even matters. Time will tell...

[dumbduck]

Yang's writing and Romita's art just keeps improving. I quite simply love Yang's dialogue. Really, even as a SM/WW fan I can let pass this scene since Clark said that Diana...

Wait.

Beef bourguignon.

BEEF BOURGUIGNON?



But seriously. I love Yang's writing but I agree with DochaDocha. It's starting to drag.

Clark's talking about Diana was a little puzzling too, "She's a true...". Love? Heroine? Soulmate? Friend?

Aaaaand. Lois didn't show interest in Clark until she discovered he was Supes. I'm not going to let this pass. Sorry. Beef bourguignon. Pshh.

[Dr. Banner]

Really enjoyed the preview. I'll definitely pick this up.

[misslane]

Aaaaand. Lois didn't show interest in Clark until she discovered he was Supes. I'm not going to let this pass. Sorry. Beef bourguignon. Pshh.

That's not true. First, Lois is explicitly saying that she's not interested in Clark/Superman in that way at present; she even notes that she does have a boyfriend. Second, Lois says here that she almost fell in love with him, and she's speaking about her previous strong feelings for Clark Kent that she never got to explore because he was secretive and distant in ways that got even worse after Morgan Edge took over, Clark quit the newspaper in protest, and he started dating Diana. In fact, considering the flashback to Morrison's Action Comics, as well as several callbacks in the dialogue, I'm almost certain Yang is referencing this moment--the moment where Lois and Clark missed their chance--from Action Comics #19. Right after this scene, Clark is shown reminding himself he can't get close to Lois because he'll have to lie to her for her protection and Lois is shown drowning her sorrows and meeting her current boyfriend, Jonathan Carroll:

I'm not sure what your deal is with the beef bourguignon, but I'm guessing you know it's a callback to a significant Lois/Clark bonding tradition in which it was used as code for sex and safety:

Superman v1 #297 | Superman v2 #153 | Kingdom Come

“Just in case you want to know what the Bronze Age writers were thinking: as one, I can tell you we thought that, in the comics, Kal-El and Lois first had sex as Clark and Lois (some fans have accurately described the “Boeuf Bourguignon” gag runner as a metaphor for spending the night together).”
— Martin Pasko, Bronze Age DC Writer

[brettc1]

That's not true. First, Lois is explicitly saying that she's not interested in Clark/Superman in that way at present; she even notes that she does have a boyfriend. Second, Lois says here that she almost fell in love with him, and she's speaking about her previous strong feelings for Clark Kent that she never got to explore because he was secretive and distant in ways that got even worse after Morgan Edge took over, Clark quit the newspaper in protest, and he started dating Diana. In fact, considering the flashback to Morrison's Action Comics, as well as several callbacks in the dialogue, I'm almost certain Yang is referencing this moment--the moment where Lois and Clark missed their chance--from Action Comics #19. Right after this scene, Clark is shown reminding himself he can't get close to Lois because he'll have to lie to her for her protection and Lois is shown drowning her sorrows and meeting her current boyfriend, Jonathan Carroll:

I'm not sure what your deal is with the beef bourguignon, but I'm guessing you know it's a callback to a significant Lois/Clark bonding tradition in which it was used as code for sex and safety:

Superman v1 #297 | Superman v2 #153 | Kingdom Come

“Just in case you want to know what the Bronze Age writers were thinking: as one, I can tell you we thought that, in the comics, Kal-El and Lois first had sex as Clark and Lois (some fans have accurately described the “Boeuf Bourguignon” gag runner as a metaphor for spending the night together).”
— Martin Pasko, Bronze Age DC Writer

Yeah, Lois might be SAYING it but Kathy and I just finished watching the first season of ARROW (no spoilers please!) and I saw a lot of folks saying a lot of things about how they felt that turned out to be anything but true.

[misslane]

Yeah, Lois might be SAYING it but Kathy and I just finished watching the first season of ARROW (no spoilers please!) and I saw a lot of folks saying a lot of things about how they felt that turned out to be anything but true.

How is this relevant? Is Lois the same person as those people? Is she written by the same writers? Lois doesn't often lie. She's actually blunt to a fault. She wouldn't admit to feelings of that (love) sort if it weren't true, and if you think the part she's being untruthful about is the "almost" part, then I don't see why. Feelings need to be nurtured to be developed, and from Lois' perspective Clark curtailed their ability to cultivate anything more between them with his secrets and distance. I also have no reason to believe Lois is lying when she expresses commitment to her boyfriend, Jonathan. So I am quite confused by your statement here, especially what you're implying about Lois. Are you suggesting she's lying to herself about her true feelings and conveying those lies to Clark in this scene? Are you suggesting that Lois does know that deep down she either didn't have any feelings for Clark or was actually in love with him? Are you suggesting that she's not committed to her boyfriend? What do you feel her motivation for lying would be?

[Prime]

At this point everyone has seen Superman nude.

[brettc1]

At this point everyone has seen Superman nude.

Except possibly Wonder Woman

Whoops, sorry, I forgot, she got to sneak a peek when he used his flare power. Thank goodness for new powers, eh Diana?