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    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    Thing is, the viewership of WD goes beyond zombie fans. I personally don't really care for the genre. What WD did to draw me in was to create characters, plotlines, and a universe that could generate interest indefinitely. Most of my friends who watch feel the same way I do.
    Well, i guess if you never saw a zombie story before this looks interesting.
    But i am reviewing it from the side of a person that have seen a good amount of zombie stuff.
    Even with that, the characters are generic. Nobody popped, these people could be dropped on any show without the need to actually change anything.

    Really, change zombies with werewolves, vampires, aliens, and the story would play out the exact same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Well, i guess if you never saw a zombie story before this looks interesting.
    But i am reviewing it from the side of a person that have seen a good amount of zombie stuff.
    Even with that, the characters are generic. Nobody popped, these people could be dropped on any show without the need to actually change anything.

    Really, change zombies with werewolves, vampires, aliens, and the story would play out the exact same.


    Yeah, you're right. After watching the first episode of WD, I thought Rick & Co were boring cut-outs. I want my 5 seasons back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    Yeah, you're right. After watching the first episode of WD, I thought Rick & Co were boring cut-outs. I want my 5 seasons back.
    Im talking about FWD.

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    It didn't need to be 90 minutes and some of it felt slow, but I did like the foreshadowing and establishing characters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman#22 View Post
    Exactly. I'm not exactly a professional historian, but during the dark ages we had The Bubonic Plague which had huge affect on everyone. With no real technology, I doubt they could comprehend at the time how everyone got sick. The cast is in the exact same boat because this a new type of disease and no one can comprehend how it began. However just like the plague I'm sure Civilization will overcome it and continue to survive as a species.
    It's not the walkers and the outbreak that's going to doom civilization, it's corrupt people like the Governor trying to take power and guys like the Claimed Gang roaming around that'll keep civilization from coming back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    The only interesting thing i found was the pimply kid. He knows what's up. I want to see him become a kick ass zombie killer.
    I'd like to see him attempt to become a kick ass zombie killer and then get ripped apart. I wonder how big a cast this show is going to be. What types of recurring characters we'll have. I want the same "Just About Anyone Can Die" vibe I get from the mother show.

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    Just looked at the trailer for this, the stuff when the zombies start showing up looks like it could be good, the family drama before that looks terrible. Gave up on The Walking Dead after the first terrible season, but I might check this out when it shows up on Netflix at some point

    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    While I agree the series premiere seemed to drag a bit, I can overlook that flaw. I wasn't hooked on the Walking Dead until several episodes in Season 1.

    Things are already getting pretty intense. I'm sure episode 2 will highlight the chaos erupting throughout the city. I hope they continue to address what is happening worldwide (?) through TV broadcasts, media posts, etc like that viral video the people at the high school watched. Until technology no longer works, that is.
    Really? The first episode was like the only good episode of the first season, or at least the best episode. That episode made it feels like the show was going places, where the rest of the season showed it was perfectly fine letting nothing happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Im talking about FWD.

    I know. What I'm saying is, give it a chance. Or not. It's obviously your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    Just looked at the trailer for this, the stuff when the zombies start showing up looks like it could be good, the family drama before that looks terrible. Gave up on The Walking Dead after the first terrible season, but I might check this out when it shows up on Netflix at some point



    Really? The first episode was like the only good episode of the first season, or at least the best episode. That episode made it feels like the show was going places, where the rest of the season showed it was perfectly fine letting nothing happen.
    You remember their visit to the CDC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    You remember their visit to the CDC?
    The last episode? Yeah, that was the only other good one; although you find out some really stupid stuff there too if I remember right. Still, that episode wasn't as good as the first one. Is the last episode when the show hooked you? If so, why would you keep watching? That's a number of hours to waste on something before it got interesting for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Stock characters and scenes.
    How many times have we seen the junky see something that no one else believes?

    Step parents that the kids dont like.
    How many times? I really don't know. It's not something I see too frequently that it's cliche. Also, this show is showing the transition from everyday regular society to the zombie apocalypse. Of course it's going to have standard, relatable characters and settings at first.
    The mexican gang story from WD was interesting.
    Seems we have differing ideas of what makes an interesting show. I found that to be one of the worst episodes of season 1.

    How about a story where some one actually prepares instead of stumbling around through the whole process?

    This was the problem with this show from any person that has seen zombie movies before.
    Both the other show and the comics have the same thing, though. I believe Kirkman's even stated something about it, but don't quote me on that. The people in this universe don't know what zombies are, basically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    It's AMC, not HBO. Why would you suggest porno zombies?
    I assumed he was joking, but who knows.

    Quote Originally Posted by d.w washburn View Post
    What can this show do that Walking Dead hasn't? Unless the zombies go all Special like in Left for Dead. This is just filler until WD starts back up.
    I really hope they don't go somewhere like that, and I'm really surprised at some of the expectations I'm reading about. I don't know what else you guys expected from a show about regular society succumbing to the zombie outbreak. Of course it's going start with normal society. Of course it's going to get crazier as time goes. They even started it with the first episode. Did anyone else notice all of the emergency vehicle sirens all over throughout the episode? There was an atmosphere of stuff going on and building behind the scenes and it hasn't boiled over yet, but it will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Well, i guess if you never saw a zombie story before this looks interesting.
    But i am reviewing it from the side of a person that have seen a good amount of zombie stuff.
    I've seen a good amount of zombie stuff, as well, and I thought the show was fantastic.
    Really, change zombies with werewolves, vampires, aliens, and the story would play out the exact same.
    I don't understand what point you are trying to make here. How would or should the characters behave differently if we the audience know a different monster is going to destroy their world? Unless you're making a criticism that all horror-monster-destroys-humanity stories are generic and the same, this doesn't make sense as a criticism of this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    The last episode? Yeah, that was the only other good one; although you find out some really stupid stuff there too if I remember right. Still, that episode wasn't as good as the first one. Is the last episode when the show hooked you? If so, why would you keep watching? That's a number of hours to waste on something before it got interesting for you.

    Are you really pushing this point? You just assumed I didn't like any of the episodes in between. Pretty blind of you. I liked all of Season 1, but like I said earlier, it took me a few eps to get hooked. What was so hard to understand about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by impulseucf View Post
    How many times? I really don't know. It's not something I see too frequently that it's cliche. Also, this show is showing the transition from everyday regular society to the zombie apocalypse. Of course it's going to have standard, relatable characters and settings at first.
    Seems we have differing ideas of what makes an interesting show. I found that to be one of the worst episodes of season 1.

    Both the other show and the comics have the same thing, though. I believe Kirkman's even stated something about it, but don't quote me on that. The people in this universe don't know what zombies are, basically.

    I assumed he was joking, but who knows.

    I really hope they don't go somewhere like that, and I'm really surprised at some of the expectations I'm reading about. I don't know what else you guys expected from a show about regular society succumbing to the zombie outbreak. Of course it's going start with normal society. Of course it's going to get crazier as time goes. They even started it with the first episode. Did anyone else notice all of the emergency vehicle sirens all over throughout the episode? There was an atmosphere of stuff going on and building behind the scenes and it hasn't boiled over yet, but it will.

    I've seen a good amount of zombie stuff, as well, and I thought the show was fantastic.
    I don't understand what point you are trying to make here. How would or should the characters behave differently if we the audience know a different monster is going to destroy their world? Unless you're making a criticism that all horror-monster-destroys-humanity stories are generic and the same, this doesn't make sense as a criticism of this show.

    I was joking. You assumed correctly, unlike Sighphi.

    And I agree with your other points. The folks here with whom we are mutually conversing seem to have a very strange preconception of what should be a good show. Their loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    Are you really pushing this point? You just assumed I didn't like any of the episodes in between. Pretty blind of you. I liked all of Season 1, but like I said earlier, it took me a few eps to get hooked. What was so hard to understand about that?
    Blind of me based on what? All you said was "You remember their visit to the CDC?" and before that you said you weren't hooked until several episodes into the first season? That would seem to say you weren't into the show until the last episode of the whole season. What did you mean me to decipher from your vague post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulahulk View Post
    I know. What I'm saying is, give it a chance. Or not. It's obviously your choice.
    I am, i was just giving my view of the first episode.
    Nothing special.
    General stuff seen a thousand times.

    Quote Originally Posted by impulseucf View Post
    How many times? I really don't know. It's not something I see too frequently that it's cliche.
    Well, it seems that people that dont watch a lot of these type of stuff are into it .
    Nice, but as a person that has been into this for a long time there was nothing interesting.

    Also, this show is showing the transition from everyday regular society to the zombie apocalypse. Of course it's going to have standard, relatable characters and settings at first.
    Why does it have to have generic characters at first if its visiting something does on the regular in the recent age of zombie works?

    Seems we have differing ideas of what makes an interesting show. I found that to be one of the worst episodes of season 1.
    I didnt say what i thought about the episode. I said the idea of gangbangers using their gangbanging skills to do good was an interesting take.

    Both the other show and the comics have the same thing, though. I believe Kirkman's even stated something about it, but don't quote me on that. The people in this universe don't know what zombies are, basically.
    90% of supernatural works consist of worlds where the supernatural is unknown and we get this silly crap of, "What the hell is going on." That doesnt mean that everything else needs to go the same route.

    I assumed he was joking, but who knows.
    Of course. It was a silly attempt at making a point.

    I've seen a good amount of zombie stuff, as well, and I thought the show was fantastic.
    What was fantastic about it?
    I mean, the first movie of the modern zombie age, Night of the Living Dead, at least added a couple of things that made it interesting. The zombies stopped being magic and the lead was a black dude, that at the time was kind of special.

    I don't understand what point you are trying to make here. How would or should the characters behave differently if we the audience know a different monster is going to destroy their world? Unless you're making a criticism that all horror-monster-destroys-humanity stories are generic and the same, this doesn't make sense as a criticism of this show.
    The story had nothing unique about the genre that it's in.
    It was so general that you could replace the zombies with any other monster and still have the same show happen with basically no changes.

    Imagine if the show was werewolves.
    The druggy wakes up and sees gloria with long fangs and pointy ears and runs.
    He tells step dad about it, he goes to see, he comes back and tells mom.
    The news report would basically play out the same.

    The only hard changes would be how the last scene played out a bit.

    Everything else could be left how it is.

    The show showed NOTHING that made me think this was something unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impulseucf View Post
    Seems we have differing ideas of what makes an interesting show. I found that to be one of the worst episodes of season 1.
    That's when I officially decided Walking Dead was crap. You've been watching this show where every episode nothing is happening. Finally the show presents use with a conflict, a conflict that seemingly must be dealt with within the episode. Somethings going to happen. Our group must now clash with this dangerous gang, oh, wait, nope, never mind, the gang is just a nice group of people taking care of the elderly; conflict defused people, nothing to see here, the status quo of nothing happening has been maintained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    That's when I officially decided Walking Dead was crap. You've been watching this show where every episode nothing is happening. Finally the show presents use with a conflict, a conflict that seemingly must be dealt with within the episode. Somethings going to happen. Our group must now clash with this dangerous gang, oh, wait, nope, never mind, the gang is just a nice group of people taking care of the elderly; conflict defused people, nothing to see here, the status quo of nothing happening has been maintained.
    Man you have sure missed a hell of a lot if that small plot about a nice gang of people helping older people was the reason you quit.
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