Last edited by Javier Velasco; 10-12-2015 at 11:35 PM. Reason: dismissive of other poster
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
I think that is a question for Dr. Marston ... the concept of submission to love is core to his imagining of the entire Amazon raceWhy does feminine have to mean submissive?
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
How could I not be? They had Hippolyta killed for a Superman event. The guy wants to write about her and they had her killed. I've been talking about the privilege of the Batman franchise and now this. Imagine if during Amazon's Attack they told a Superman writer to kill Martha. For reasons. What the heck were they thinking? It's all Superman's fault. 8(
Ah, you right. That was silly.
She was not submissive. It's a kiss. It's just a kiss. Huh. And. Feminine. And. Ah. Reasons. Not submissive. You know?
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But... It's all Superman's fault.
It's all Superman's fault.
It's all Superman's fault.
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Last edited by dumbduck; 08-31-2015 at 09:53 PM.
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
let's get this right. Amazons were submissive with other amazons, marston liked women being submissive with other women. marston like men being submissive to women, not the contrary. People like to use Marston as excuse to seeing wonder woman submissive to superman, you are very wrong
what covers? because i don't saw anyone with superman being sexually submissive to wonder woman.
Last edited by Tayswift; 09-01-2015 at 06:10 AM.
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
That is true, but only because Marston claimed woman were more capable of love than men (I believe his term was "had more love organs"). But the key to happiness he always tried to get across was being able to submit to a loving authority. He almost always showed that authority as female, but that also shows that the authority themselves had submitted to love ... it's a never ending loop if you think about it. Marston went to great lengths to show that women should be in charge because they were capable of both authority and love, while men were more often cruel masters. But he also went to great length to show that submission wasn't a horrible thing, in fact it was a beautiful trait. I think the mistake people make is thinking submission=feminine=negative when in fact Marston was trying to show that submission=gender neutral=good.
Which is kind of at odds with the very nature of Superman, who is supposed to be a dominant individual.
Weren't there a lot of fans getting narky because they felt like it had gotten to the stage pre-flashpoint where Lois kept his testicles in a box on her bedside table?
Heh. Love organs.
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
Golden Age SM would, by today's standards, be considered a massive chauvinist pig, but I credit that more with the times than anything. Lois and Clark were often in competition and he was more than a little condescending back in the 1940s. I'd call that more domineering than dominant and it plays right into Marston's "blood curdling masculinity" criticism of comics of the day.
Post-Crisis SM seemed to be focused on his "Big Blue Boyscout" persona, I'm sure there are fans that didn't love that, personally I kind of liked him like that, to me it fits the character to be a touch naive in the "small town boy in the big city" way. I found it endearing that he was so devoted to Lois ... I'd probably like the SM/WW relationship a bit better if he showed that much dedication to Diana. Personally I think SM/WW work better as more of a brother/sister relationship, but I don't hate them as a couple.
So true. I hate the way Diana's been jerked around by the DC Universe. But then, I hate it whenever one book is randomly influenced by things happening in another book that have nothing to do with the story being told by the writer.They had Hippolyta killed for a Superman event. The guy wants to write about her and they had her killed. I've been talking about the privilege of the Batman franchise and now this. Imagine if during Amazon's Attack they told a Superman writer to kill Martha. For reasons.