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    Default Please Correct My Reading Order for Murderer and Fugitive Batman Comics

    New Reading Order

    Screw the TPBs. I checked the issues themselves and these are the contents and titles of issues. Check comicvine for confirmation and proof.

    Batman: The 10-Cent Adventure #1 [Prelude]
    Detective Comics #766 [Murderer Part 1]
    Batgirl #24 [Murderer Part 2]
    Nightwing #65 [Murderer Part 3]
    Gotham Knights #25 [Murderer Part 4]
    Birds Of Prey #39 [Murderer Part 5]
    Robin #98 [Murderer Part 6]
    Batman #599 [Murderer Part 7]
    Detective Comics #767 [Murderer Part 8]
    Nightwing #66 [Murderer Part 9]
    Gotham Knights #26 [Murderer Part 10]
    Robin #99 [Murderer Part 11]
    Birds Of Prey #40 [Murderer Part 12]
    Batman #600 [Fugitive Part 1]
    Birds Of Prey #41 [Fugitive Part 2]
    Gotham Knights #27 [Not Numbered but Continues to Batman #601]
    Batman #601 [Fugitive Part 3]
    Detective Comics #768 [Not Numbered. Title of Issue is Purity Part 1]
    Detective Comics #769 [Fugitive Part 4. Purity Part 2]
    Batgirl #27 [Fugitive Part 5]
    Nightwing #68 [Fugitive Part 6]
    Gotham Knights #28 [Fugitive Part 7]
    Gotham Knights #29 [Not Numbered. Continuation of Gotham Knights #28. Purity Part 3]
    Detective Comics #770 [Fugitive Part 8]
    Nightwing (Vol. 2) #69 [Fugitive Part 9]
    Birds Of Prey (Vol. 1) #43 [Fugitive Part 10]
    Batman #603 [Fugitive Part 11]
    Batman #604 [Not Numbered. But in this issue, he resolves himself as Bruce Wayne. Title is 'Reasons']
    Detective Comics #771 [Fugitive Part 12]
    Batgirl #29 [Fugitive Part 13]
    Gotham Knights #30 [Fugitive Part 14]
    Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #91 [Fugitive Part 15]
    Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #92 [Not Numbered. Follows after Ending page in Fugitive Part 15. A Tie-in. Next issue strays from arc]
    Detective Comics #772 [Fugitive Part 16]
    Gotham Knights #31 [Fugitive Part 17]
    Batman #605 [Fugitive Part 18]
    Detective Comics #773 [Atonement Part 1]
    Detective Comics #774 [Atonement Part 2]
    Detective Comics #775 [Atonement Part 3]
    Gotham Knights #32 [Title is 24/7. Based from the last page, this seems to be the ending of the arc]
    Batman #606 [Death Wish for Two. I dunno where to put this. From the scenes, it looks like a tie-in.]
    Batman #607 [Death Wish for Two. Same]
    Batgirl #33 [Father's Day. A tie-in.]

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    I've read that the 2014 and 2015 had some problems with collections. As seen in the top reviews Murderer and Fugitive

    Please help me arrange or add the relevant issues. This is a completionist attempt.

    Bruce Wayne Murderer (2002)
    Batman: The 10-Cent Adventure #1
    Detective Comics #766
    Batgirl #24
    Nightwing #65
    Gotham Knights #25
    Birds Of Prey #39
    Robin #98
    Batman #599
    Detective Comics #767
    Nightwing #66
    Gotham Knights #26
    Robin #99
    Birds Of Prey #40

    Bruce Wayne Fugitive (2002)
    Batman #600
    Birds Of Prey #41
    Batman #601
    Detective Comics #768 [Reported missing from the 2015 TPB]
    Detective Comics #769
    Batgirl #27
    Nightwing #68
    Gotham Knights #28
    Gotham Knights #29 [Reported missing from the 2015 TPB]
    Detective Comics #770
    Nightwing (Vol. 2) #69
    Birds Of Prey (Vol. 1) #43
    Batman #603
    Batman #604 [Reported missing from the 2015 TPB]
    Detective Comics #771
    Batgirl #29
    Gotham Knights #30
    Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #91
    Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #92
    Detective Comics #772
    Gotham Knights #31
    Batman #605
    Detective Comics #773
    Detective Comics #774
    Detective Comics #775
    Detective Comics #32
    Batman #606
    Batman #607
    Batgirl #33
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    http://ultimatebatmancomicswebsite.w...m/page-10.html

    Go to Batman: Bruce Wayne: Murderer?/Fugitive on the timeline; I included a list that contains the reading order and the differences between the old and new collected editions.
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    Quite the list!

    Detective Comics #773-775 is quite interesting. It is supposed to be a link in the Infinite Crisis Event.

    One question: The Vesper murder case was never resolved right?
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    [Spoiler]I thought it was resolved, didn't David Cain do it to get revenge for Batman training his daughter [/Spoiler]

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    Ah, I now get it. The revelation is in Batgirl #33. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterBatmanSuparmanParker View Post
    I've read that the 2014 and 2015 had some problems with collections
    They corrected Murderer and now there aren't any. Murderer ends on Nightwing #69 and has Detective Comics #768-770 and Gotham Knights #29 which were originally solicited in Fugitive, but then moved (first printing of new Murderer forgot #768, but it was corrected). Batman #604 is in Fugitive and I never heard that it's missing. It's actually not in older trades, because it wasn't labelled as part of Fugitive (like Gotham Knights #27, which is not even on your list), but those new trades collect all of main Batman titles (Batman #599-607, Detective #766-775 and Gotham Knights #25-32) from that period.

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    Is there any changes or additions anyone would make to the new editions of Murderer and Fugitive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Wisdom View Post
    They corrected Murderer and now there aren't any. Murderer ends on Nightwing #69 and has Detective Comics #768-770 and Gotham Knights #29 which were originally solicited in Fugitive, but then moved (first printing of new Murderer forgot #768, but it was corrected). Batman #604 is in Fugitive and I never heard that it's missing. It's actually not in older trades, because it wasn't labelled as part of Fugitive (like Gotham Knights #27, which is not even on your list), but those new trades collect all of main Batman titles (Batman #599-607, Detective #766-775 and Gotham Knights #25-32) from that period.
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    Is there any changes or additions anyone would make to the new editions of Murderer and Fugitive?
    Changed the reading order. Please check 1st post for violent reactions.

    Edit: I discarded the TPBs and went straight to the issues and titles. Though, I marked and included some issues that the TPBs included and those I felt that were part of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterBatmanSuparmanParker View Post
    Changed the reading order. Please check 1st post for violent reactions.

    Edit: I discarded the TPBs and went straight to the issues and titles. Though, I marked and included some issues that the TPBs included and those I felt that were part of the story.
    Nice work. This is the clearest I've ever seen it. Say what you will about the Knightfall numbering on the cover, but it at least helped keep things straight. Though I guess with the un-numbered Shadow of the Bat issues, they also confused that one a bit for compleationists too.

    Still, following the entirety of Murderer/Fugitive takes some serious hoping skill. Not sure I'm up to the challenge. Gotta trust that the new trades give me everything I need...

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    Is it correct that Batman #602 has been included in the new volume of ''Batman: Bruce Wayne: Murderer?''

    Also:

    Batman: The 10-Cent Adventure #1 [Prelude]
    Detective Comics #766 [Murderer Part 1]
    Batgirl #24 [Murderer Part 2]
    Nightwing #65 [Murderer Part 3]
    Gotham Knights #25 [Murderer Part 4]
    Birds Of Prey #39 [Murderer Part 5]
    Robin #98 [Murderer Part 6]
    Batman #599 [Murderer Part 7]
    Detective Comics #767 [Murderer Part 8]
    Nightwing #66 [Murderer Part 9]
    Gotham Knights #26 [Murderer Part 10]
    Robin #99 [Murderer Part 11]
    Birds Of Prey #40 [Murderer Part 12]
    Batman #600 [Fugitive Part 1]
    Birds Of Prey #41 [Fugitive Part 2]
    Gotham Knights #27 [Not Numbered but Continues to Batman #601]
    Batman #601 [Fugitive Part 3]
    Detective Comics #768 [Not Numbered. Title of Issue is Purity Part 1]
    Detective Comics #769 [Fugitive Part 4. Purity Part 2]
    Batgirl #27 [Fugitive Part 5]
    Nightwing #68 [Fugitive Part 6]
    Gotham Knights #28 [Fugitive Part 7]
    Gotham Knights #29 [Not Numbered. Continuation of Gotham Knights #28. Purity Part 3]
    Detective Comics #770 [Fugitive Part 8]
    Nightwing (Vol. 2) #69 [Fugitive Part 9]
    Birds Of Prey (Vol. 1) #43 [Fugitive Part 10]
    Batman #603 [Fugitive Part 11]
    Batman #604 [Not Numbered. But in this issue, he resolves himself as Bruce Wayne. Title is 'Reasons']
    Detective Comics #771 [Fugitive Part 12]
    Batgirl #29 [Fugitive Part 13]
    Gotham Knights #30 [Fugitive Part 14]
    Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #91 [Fugitive Part 15]
    Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #92 [Not Numbered. Follows after Ending page in Fugitive Part 15. A Tie-in. Next issue strays from arc]
    Detective Comics #772 [Fugitive Part 16]
    Gotham Knights #31 [Fugitive Part 17]
    Batman #605 [Fugitive Part 18]
    Detective Comics #773 [Atonement Part 1]
    Detective Comics #774 [Atonement Part 2]
    Detective Comics #775 [Atonement Part 3]
    Gotham Knights #32 [Title is 24/7. Based from the last page, this seems to be the ending of the arc]
    Batman #606 [Death Wish for Two. I dunno where to put this. From the scenes, it looks like a tie-in.]
    Batman #607 [Death Wish for Two. Same]
    Batgirl #33 [Father's Day. A tie-in.]
    You list:
    - Gotham Knights #29 [Not Numbered. Continuation of Gotham Knights #28. Purity Part 3]

    However, Purity, Part 3 is in Detective Comics #770. Should Gotham Knights #29 be included anyway?
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    Ah, True. Purity Part 3 is Detective Comics #770. Thanks for the critical eye.


    Gotham Knights #28 is Mortician Part 1. It is also titled Fugitive Part 7.

    Fugitive Part 8 is DC #770 but Mortician Part 2 seems to be Gotham Knights #29. Since it is only a two part issue, I subjectively included it as part of the reading in order not to miss-out on the scenes.

    On the contrary, I had a different mindset when it came to the Azrael comics tie-in, since it is not only two issues but multiple, I made a remark that next Azrael issues stray from Fugitive arc.
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     Batman: Bruce Wayne: Murderer?

    • Batman: The 10-Cent Adventure #1 [Prelude]
    • Detective Comics #766 [Part 1]
    • Batgirl (Vol. 1) #24 [Part 2]
    • Nightwing (Vol. 2) #65 [Part 3]
    • Batman: Gotham Knights #25 [Part 4]
    • Birds Of Prey (Vol. 1) #39 [Part 5]
    • Robin (Vol. 4) #98 [Part 6]
    • Batman #599 [Part 7]
    • Detective Comics #767 [Part 8]
    • Nightwing (Vol. 2) #66 [Part 9]
    • Batman: Gotham Knights #26 [Part 10]
    • Robin (Vol. 4) #99 [Part 11]
    • Birds Of Prey (Vol. 1) #40 [Part 12]

     Batman: Bruce Wayne: Fugitive

    • Batman #600 [Part 1]
    • Birds Of Prey #41 [Part 2]
    • Gotham Knights #27 [Not numbered, but continues in Batman #601]
    • Batman #601 [Part 3]
    • Detective Comics #768 [Not numbered: ‘’Purity, Part 1’’]
    • Detective Comics #769 [Part 4] [‘’Purity, Part 2’’]
    • Batgirl #27 [Part 5]
    • Nightwing #68 [Part 6]
    • Gotham Knights #28 [Part 7] [‘’The Mortician, Part 1’’]
    • Gotham Knights #29 [Not numbered: ‘’The Mortician, Part 2’’]
    • Detective Comics #770 [Part 8]
    • Nightwing (Vol. 2) #69 [Part 9]
    • Birds Of Prey (Vol. 1) #43 [Part 10]
    • Batman #603 [Part 11]
    • Batman #604 [Not numbered, but in this issue, Batman resolves himself as Bruce Wayne]
    • Detective Comics #771 [Part 12]
    • Batgirl #29 [Part 13]
    • Gotham Knights #30 [Part 14]
    • Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #91 [Part 15]
    • Azrael: Agent Of The Bat #92 [Not numbered: Continues cliffhanger ending from #91]
    • Detective Comics #772 [Part 16]
    • Gotham Knights #31 [Part 17]
    • Batman #605 [Part 18] [FINAL PART]

    There is an aftermath to the Batman: Bruce Wayne: Fugitive storyline that finishes some stories left undisclosed:

    The story of Sasha Bordeaux develops in Detective Comics #773-775:

    • Detective Comics #773 [‘’Atonement, Part 1’’];
    • Detective Comics #774 [‘’Atonement, Part 2’’];
    • Detective Comics #775 [‘’Atonement, Part 3’’].

    The story of David Cain develops in the issues Batman #606-607:

    • Batman #606 [‘’Death-Wish For Two, Part 1’’];
    • Batman #607 [‘’Death-Wish For Two, Part 2’’].

    The story of Cassandra and David Cain develops in Batgirl #33.

    • Batgirl #33 [‘’Father’s Day’’].

    Question:

    How does Gotham Knights #32 fit in? It follows Bruce Wayne through a typical day, but it seems to be just after the whole Murderer/Fugitive arcs, so I guess it is nice to include just to see Bruce/Batman getting back to ''normal'' life...
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