Stan Fires Back At Snyder, Talks Winter Soldier In "Civil War"

[Greywolf]

Incorrect. I like both companies. I always have. I'm tired of the "DCEU already sucks even though we haven't seen their 2016 movies" silliness which runneth rampant here and every comics web board.

True, let's just keep it at "MoS sucked big time, and by the looks of it it won't get better anytime soon...but in the spirit of fairness let's wait and see"

I would LOVE to see both universes/companies flourish and have their own share of great superhero movies, but warner (in my opinion) is making bad decision after bad decision... while Marvel still manages to hit the nail with every movie they make. This is no fanboy remark. I have read comics from both companies for the last 30+ years, and love the stories and characters from both of them...

Just look at the castings... and the characterization... Look at the teaser image of Jason Momoa as Aquaman... You just can't take a loose haired and heavily tattooed Khal Drogo and try to sell him as a completely different iconic superhero.

[Calighoula]

True, let's just keep it at "MoS sucked big time, and by the looks of it it won't get better anytime soon...but in the spirit of fairness let's wait and see"

I would LOVE to see both universes/companies flourish and have their own share of great superhero movies, but warner (in my opinion) is making bad decision after bad decision... while Marvel still manages to hit the nail with every movie they make. This is no fanboy remark. I have read comics from both companies for the last 30+ years, and love the stories and characters from both of them...

Just look at the castings... and the characterization... Look at the teaser image of Jason Momoa as Aquaman... You just can't take a loose haired and heavily tattooed Khal Drogo and try to sell him as a completely different iconic superhero.

See, so have I. So you estimate Marvel hits the nail on the proverbial head with every single movie they make...? I guess you never read Walt Simonson's standard-setting run on The Mighty Thor. Not to mention how Ultron was proverbially neutered and was hardly threatening, cartoon lips and all.

MoS sucked? I never said that and I disagree. Great movie.

[Calighoula]

All super-hero movies use the basic formula, because they are, at their core, juvenile adolescent power fantasies.

That label can apply to a great many things. James Bond. Conan. Han Solo. Jason Bourne.

[Doctor Know]

Just look at the castings... and the characterization... Look at the teaser image of Jason Momoa as Aquaman... You just can't take a loose haired and heavily tattooed Khal Drogo and try to sell him as a completely different iconic superhero.

Perhaps you missed Peter David's/90's Aquaman.

[Calighoula]

Perhaps you missed Peter David's/90's Aquaman.

No kidding. I'd love to see this particular image in the film:

[Darrell D.]

That label can apply to a great many things. James Bond. Conan. Han Solo. Jason Bourne.

Oh, absolutely, for all three. "I'm a badass spy that can do all kinds of awesome things and nobody can mess with me and I get the girl at the end" is basically Bond and Bourne. "I am a rogue and I play by my own rules, DAD!" is Han Solo.
Nothing wrong with that, it makes for some great entertainment.

[Phil Clark]

If someone is able to articulate how MOS is dark/grim/gritty, I would love to hear their argument.

No, you would't. It has been explained ad-infinitum, and you refuse to acknowledge the various posters points. You and others just keep regurgitating the same argument over and over. Its becoming a circular discussion with you.

Tell me how its grim. Explanation given. Batman, watchmen yada yada, hows it grim. Explanation given. Batman, watchmen yada yada, hows it grim.

Just give it a rest already. Stop asking for what you don't want to acknowledge.

[CliffHanger2]

Bucky needs a warm glass of milk and a time out somewhere.

[Darrell D.]

Bucky needs a warm glass of milk and a time out somewhere.

Nah, his comeback was pretty funny. He should keep on quipping.

[Calighoula]

Nah, his comeback was pretty funny. He should keep on quipping.

The problem with his "better Christopher Nolan movie" remark is that Nolan's influence extends to The Winter Solder. The street sequence with TWS and Fury is informed by The Dark Knight. Arguments that point to TDK sequence being an echo of Batman's don't hold up because they're choreographed and shot very differently. The Russos clearly like Nolan, and I can't say I blame them.

[CliffHanger2]

Nah, his comeback was pretty funny. He should keep on quipping.

Tell 'em why you mad Bucky.lol. Funny thing is he'd probably die to be in any Snyder film.

[CliffHanger2]

The problem with his "better Christopher Nolan movie" remark is that Nolan's influence extends to The Winter Solder. The street sequence with TWS and Fury is informed by The Dark Knight. Arguments that point to TDK sequence being an echo of Batman's don't hold up because they're choreographed and shot very differently. The Russos clearly like Nolan, and I can't say I blame them.

I agree the Nolan influence is more apparent in TWS. Horribly filmed choppy action sequences just like TDK, hopefully these guys will improve in their next movie.

[Darrell D.]

Tell 'em why you mad Bucky.lol. Funny thing is he'd probably die to be in any Snyder film.

You think so? Over a Nolan film, say?

[Darrell D.]

The problem with his "better Christopher Nolan movie" remark is that Nolan's influence extends to The Winter Solder. The street sequence with TWS and Fury is informed by The Dark Knight. Arguments that point to TDK sequence being an echo of Batman's don't hold up because they're choreographed and shot very differently. The Russos clearly like Nolan, and I can't say I blame them.

The action sequences in TWS were done so much better than Nolan's Bat films. One of the most glaring issues with Nolan's Batman film was the piss poor fight choreography.

[kalorama]

The action sequences in TWS were done so much better than Nolan's Bat films. One of the most glaring issues with Nolan's Batman film was the piss poor fight choreography.

Have to agree with this one, at least to an extent.