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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    because the list of scandals and lawlessness for each can be quantified.

    The moral character of Trump speaks for itself.

    That Christians support this man tells me all I need to know about the morals of these Christains.

    If your God supports rapists. child molestors and murderers, as Trump does, if your God supports ripping families about and denying the basic human needs to people so the Rich can get richer and more powerful, as Trump does. I have no room for your God in my life.


    Well this has got me heated up! We have a perfectly good Politcs thread I should take my thoughts to and leave you all to go back to discussing the Bible.
    Well, we know Hilary certainly does, don't we Kirby?

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/11/...getting-raped/
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    Today's devotion:

    THE UNIQUENESS OF CHRIST’S SACRIFICE
    https://www.todayintheword.org/issue.../devotions/20/
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    Dalak, I wasn't talking about adultery specifically, but the overall corruption of politicians. You have to admit that Hilary has been embroiled in some pretty heinous things. She has been on tape saying she knowingly got a child rapist off because of a technicality and laughed about it. That is sick. And I could go on and on about their money hungry schemes.

    My point still stands that ALL politicians are crooks. Some out and out evil.
    First, don't say "Everything you just described about Trump also describes Clinton" if you didn't actually read what I typed.

    Second, everyone who downloads as much as one song or watches a video on Youtube they know breaks copyright law is a crook and everyone who speeds even 1 MPH on the road is a criminal. There are degrees to these things and to willingly ignore that just so you can excuse the truly horrible stuff going on and 'wash your hands' of it by not voting is beyond the pale. You have a responsibility to Vote and if you consider yourself to be a moral person to shirk that responsibility in these days should be unacceptable unless you can excuse atrocity after atrocity for you to feel better about yourself.

    tl;dr Both Sides are clearly not the same.

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    The Holy Spirit led me to 1 Corinthians 16:13

    13 Be alert. Continue strong in the faith. Have courage, and be strong.

    I did a google search of what the term "be Strong" means and I came up with this interesting break down:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Be-Strong
    • “The moment will arrive when you are comfortable with who you are, & when you don’t feel the need to apologize for anything or to deny anything. To be comfortable in your own skin is the beginning of strength.” ― Charles B. Handy
    • "We are not what we own or what we do for a living. We are who we choose to be, which is so much grander than any possession we can possibly acquire". - Alyssa Gross

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    First, don't say "Everything you just described about Trump also describes Clinton" if you didn't actually read what I typed.

    Second, everyone who downloads as much as one song or watches a video on Youtube they know breaks copyright law is a crook and everyone who speeds even 1 MPH on the road is a criminal. There are degrees to these things and to willingly ignore that just so you can excuse the truly horrible stuff going on and 'wash your hands' of it by not voting is beyond the pale. You have a responsibility to Vote and if you consider yourself to be a moral person to shirk that responsibility in these days should be unacceptable unless you can excuse atrocity after atrocity for you to feel better about yourself.

    tl;dr Both Sides are clearly not the same.
    Now you're really going off the rail with your analogy. You're comparing people who drive 1 MPH over the speed limit with politicians who take bribes and other corrupt things like that. I'm over this.

    If you want to continue to talk about politics take it to that thread. This thread is being derailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    Well, we know Hilary certainly does, don't we Kirby?

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/11/...getting-raped/
    Now we know where you get your false stories like this one.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hi...ghed-about-it/

    https://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/50048...-a-rape-victim

    It is another lie about Clinton from the Right Wing smear machine.

    But you keep telling yourself this BS so you can support a monster like Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    Now you're really going off the rail with your analogy. You're comparing people who drive 1 MPH over the speed limit with politicians who take bribes and other corrupt things like that. I'm over this.

    If you want to continue to talk about politics take it to that thread. This thread is being derailed.
    First, this conversation was put into this thread when another one was merged and still is predicated on the premise of 'If you want to vote to protect Christianity DON'T vote for those who say they are moral god fearing people when by their actions they prove they are unrepentant sinners abusing well-meaning Christians'.

    Secondly, you are deliberately misinterpreting the analogy in order to distract from the fact that there is nuance you are ignoring as was directly stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Now we know where you get your false stories like this one.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hi...ghed-about-it/

    https://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/50048...-a-rape-victim

    It is another lie about Clinton from the Right Wing smear machine.

    But you keep telling yourself this BS so you can support a monster like Trump.
    It is NOT a lie. You can listen to the tape yourself on YouTube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    It is NOT a lie. You can listen to the tape yourself on YouTube.
    Yes, and she is making a reference about the lie detector the defendant took. NOT about the woman who was raped.
    Read the article, not an out of context snippet on YouTube.

    Here is the real story;
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4f03ef29f5c0

    The false equivalency of Clinton and Trump would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

    Again, if Trump is the kind of man Christians support, I am glad I am not a Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Yes, and she is making a reference about the lie detector the defendant took. NOT about the woman who was raped.
    Read the article, not an out of context snippet on YouTube.

    Here is the real story;
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4f03ef29f5c0

    The false equivalency of Clinton and Trump would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

    Again, if Trump is the kind of man Christians support, I am glad I am not a Christian.
    Did you listen to the whole tape? It's about how she got a child rapist off on a technicality. During the interview, she boasts about how easy it was and clearly laughs. Do you think it's appropriate to laugh at any point during this interview? I mean, they were only discussing how she got a child rapist off. How is it appropriate to laugh at anything during that interview??

    And why would anyone be proud of that? It's sick Kirby
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