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    Quote Originally Posted by foxley View Post
    Are you suggesting God is going to send a bear to eat those who disagree with you? That does not sound like a very Christian attitude.
    Not all all. I'm simply reminding people what happened to those people who have scoffed at God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspellmaster View Post
    So a side note to all of this in regard to the "God hasc, and forgive the use for better lack of term, "eyes and ears everywhere", I recently learned of this theory about basically everything being in a virtual world and we are, boiled down, ones and zeros ala binary code and that someone programmed us.

    My theological friend took this farther and suggested that were all sims in God's game that was programmed and everything we do is just basically him/her/them typing in code and making all the choices for us.

    Personally I find this theory disturbing but I'm passing it off to others. So what do you guys think of the idea that God is a programmer and were all little sins in a perpetual state world in some weird server where they are playing a game ala the sims?
    I find it ridiculous. God gives us all free will to choose what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancj View Post
    I wasn't scoffing at God. I was scoffing at chongjasmine who suggested that God needs something.
    Fair enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    How about starting with who believes Adam and Eve actually existed as opposed to the scientific explanation for the origin of humankind?
    Well, I would guess that all the Christians here believe Adam and Eve existed. Adkal would believe as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    I'm not saying I'm for one or the other because I believe all politicians are crooks. But who exactly do you want Christian's to vote for Kirby? The Democrats who pass laws to continue abortions? Those politicians?
    Well technically the Dems don't have to pass laws to continue abortions as it's the law of the land. They just have to stop the folks using Abortion in order to get you to vote for some of the most disgusting people in the world. You think they actually care about children when they tear apart families that actually care for their kids at the border? Since if they didn't care for those kids they'd have abandoned them before coming here.

    Then of course there's the fact that they are tainting Christianity itself by their actions as they stubbornly cling to it while being as blatant in their greed, lust, and wrath against any who oppose them. Pat Robinson and the GOP is what most people think of when they think of Christianity in this country, and if you want to prove them wrong you're going to have to Vote accordingly.

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    I find it ridiculous. God gives us all free will to choose what to do.
    Yes, and if you don't want to curtail the free will of others in regards to current law while supporting Christ against those that would have spit on him while he was carrying the cross then you'll Vote accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    Well technically the Dems don't have to pass laws to continue abortions as it's the law of the land. They just have to stop the folks using Abortion in order to get you to vote for some of the most disgusting people in the world. You think they actually care about children when they tear apart families that actually care for their kids at the border? Since if they didn't care for those kids they'd have abandoned them before coming here.

    Then of course there's the fact that they are tainting Christianity itself by their actions as they stubbornly cling to it while being as blatant in their greed, lust, and wrath against any who oppose them. Pat Robinson and the GOP is what most people think of when they think of Christianity in this country, and if you want to prove them wrong you're going to have to Vote accordingly.



    Yes, and if you don't want to curtail the free will of others in regards to current law while supporting Christ against those that would have spit on him while he was carrying the cross then you'll Vote accordingly.
    Like I said, all politicians are crooks and liars. I used to naively believe in the system and vote all the time but I stopped because nothing changes for the people. The only change that happens is the size of the politicians bank account.

    If, and I mean IF, we the people were somehow able to make lobbyists illegal, then I would vote again. But until then, the politicians only vote according to how much money their vote will gain them.

    It's no longer 'for the people', but 'for the politicians'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    I'm not saying I'm for one or the other because I believe all politicians are crooks. But who exactly do you want Christian's to vote for Kirby? The Democrats who pass laws to continue abortions? Those politicians?
    Yes those politicians, not the ones whose leader is the most corrupt man to inhabit the white house. Not the ones who sacrifice the poor and needy for the rich and powerful. Not the ones who endorse torture and immoral, wars.
    Yes those. Maybe vote for the party that doesn't cause infant mortality rates to go up,
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    Like I said, all politicians are crooks and liars. I used to naively believe in the system and vote all the time but I stopped because nothing changes for the people. The only change that happens is the size of the politicians bank account.

    If, and I mean IF, we the people were somehow able to make lobbyists illegal, then I would vote again. But until then, the politicians only vote according to how much money their vote will gain them.

    It's no longer 'for the people', but 'for the politicians'.
    Do you really see no difference in this country under Trump than under Obama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    Like I said, all politicians are crooks and liars. I used to naively believe in the system and vote all the time but I stopped because nothing changes for the people. The only change that happens is the size of the politicians bank account.

    If, and I mean IF, we the people were somehow able to make lobbyists illegal, then I would vote again. But until then, the politicians only vote according to how much money their vote will gain them.

    It's no longer 'for the people', but 'for the politicians'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Do you really see no difference in this country under Trump than under Obama?
    Secondly, there are calls on the left to get rid of lobbying and Citizen's United which will work to get the majority of money out of politics, so if those are actual goals you'd like to attain then not only should you vote it should be for the D candidate. Of course don't take my word for it, I encourage you to research your local options before you get out there and Vote. I've said it before and I'll say it again - If half the people who thought their vote didn't count actually voted, it'd upend the whole political map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Yes those politicians, not the ones whose leader is the most corrupt man to inhabit the white house. Not the ones who sacrifice the poor and needy for the rich and powerful. Not the ones who endorse torture and immoral, wars.
    Yes those. Maybe vote for the party that doesn't cause infant mortality rates to go up,
    We could go back and forth over which party is more corrupt. And that's my point--they are all corrupt and don't care about us.

    If Jesus was here physically right now, he would shake his head about the evil on both sides. He would condemn them like He did the Pharisees and Sadducees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Do you really see no difference in this country under Trump than under Obama?
    I see slight differences, but overall they're just the same person pushing their own personal agenda according to their needs and not the needs of the people.
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    Do you guys follow Christ? Believe in the Bible as the written word of God? Because it not, then I have no reason to believe you are interested in putting Christ and his "platform" first or that you have no idea how a Christian should go about voting to be in line with God's will.

    No offense intended here, but if you don't have the Holy Spirit in your heart, then you are corrupted by the enemy of Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    I see slight differences, but overall they're just the same person pushing their own personal agenda according to their needs and not the needs of the people.
    Then you really haven't been paying attention.

    But if you place ending abortion over the survival of the country, by all means keep this President in office.

    (of course they won't end abortion, just make it illegal in half the States, where it will still happen, just more women will die.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Do you guys follow Christ? Believe in the Bible as the written word of God? Because it not, then I have no reason to believe you are interested in putting Christ and his "platform" first or that you have no idea how a Christian should go about voting to be in line with God's will.

    No offense intended here, but if you don't have the Holy Spirit in your heart, then you are corrupted by the enemy of Christ.
    I can only go by what Christians say they are for. An I don't understand how a majority of them support a man like Trump?
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