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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjak View Post
    Waverider. I always liked his design. But he isn't enough.
    Isn't enough what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Isn't enough what?
    He isn't used enough. Haha sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    You can get a lot more variation in the designs with patriotic symbols and colors than if you limit it to a Colonial America look.
    So why would you limit it. I mean other than to support your false argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
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    Isn't the patriot stars-and-stripes themed costume alone, even more redundant?
    You can get a lot more variation in the designs with patriotic symbols and colors than if you limit it to a Colonial America look.
    So why would you limit it. I mean other than to support your false argument
    Huh?

    The whole thing about a Colonial America look was because of what someone else suggested:
    Quote Originally Posted by scary harpy View Post
    I'd like Minute Man's costume to have a colonial American appearance.
    And what the hell do you mean by "false argument"?!?
    What part of my opinion is "false"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Huh?

    And what the hell do you mean by "false argument"?!?
    What part of my opinion is "false"?
    The implication that it is limited.
    You can obviously get just as many " variation in the designs with Colonial America look combined with "patriotic symbols and colors"
    Nobody said it was limited to that except you, to support your argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    You can get a lot more variation in the designs with patriotic symbols and colors than if you limit it to a Colonial America look.
    So I'll ask again, why would you limit it?
    These are fantastic Superhero costumes, you can invoke the a Colonial American look AND also pull from a million other themes including every single patriotic theme imaginable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Haven't there already been enough of those?

    Weeeeeeeeell, that cover is certainly from a different era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Weeeeeeeeell, that cover is certainly from a different era.
    It's pretty horrific how asians, blacks and latinos were portrayed, both in comics and the pulps at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    The implication that it is limited.
    You can obviously get just as many " variation in the designs with Colonial America look combined with "patriotic symbols and colors"
    Nobody said it was limited to that except you, to support your argument.


    So I'll ask again, why would you limit it?
    These are fantastic Superhero costumes, you can invoke the a Colonial American look AND also pull from a million other themes including every single patriotic theme imaginable.
    Considering what someone else said
    Quote Originally Posted by scary harpy View Post
    I'd like Minute Man's costume to have a colonial American appearance.
    isn't that the person who's request would be "limiting it"? Why are you saying I'm limiting it? I'm just addressing what someone else requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    It's pretty horrific how asians, blacks and latinos were portrayed, both in comics and the pulps at the time.
    This is true. However, back then , we were at war with Japan and they were "the enemy". Not too many people would have been willing to say we should be trying to depict them as fellow human beings since our soldiers were trying to kill enemy soldiers.

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    You can post it as big as you want.What you don't seem to get is you can invoke a Colonial American look AND still pull from a million other themes at the same time, from modern to ancient, plus every single patriotic theme used in every patriotic hero imaginable, and milion other elements. And still invoke a Colonial American theme.
    That's the nature of superhero costumes.
    The only one saying it's suddenly limited, is you. If you don't get it, read that underlined part to yourself again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    You can post it as big as you want, you can invoke a Colonial American look AND still pull from a million other themes, from modern to ancient, plus every single patriotic theme imaginable, and milion other elements. And still invoke a Colonial American theme.
    That's the nature of superhero costumes.
    The only one saying it's suddenly limited, is you.
    You and I are using the choice of the word "appearance" differently. I assumed the person meant "appearance" as in "look like" it was based on Colonial American attire / fashion. You seem to view it as just a "theme" and not necessarily looking like what a person would actually have worn then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    It's pretty horrific how asians, blacks and latinos were portrayed, both in comics and the pulps at the time.
    I dunno, speaking as a Latino myself (albeit not Mexican), I love Speedy Gonzales and I know quite a few Mexican people who love him too despite of being a blatant stereotype.

    Mind you, I think he's portrayed as a more positive stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    I dunno, speaking as a Latino myself (albeit not Mexican), I love Speedy Gonzales and I know quite a few Mexican people who love him too despite of being a blatant stereotype.

    Mind you, I think he's portrayed as a more positive stereotype.
    Yeah I wasn't talking about Speedy.
    More...
    https://fantasyhandbook.files.wordpr...racistpulp.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewGod View Post
    Alpha Centurion

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    There's a character I haven't thought of in a long time.

    Alpha Centurion is actually one of those exceptional 90s creations, that didn't hang his existence on another's legacy, but actually was a somewhat unique new idea, I'd like to see updated and return.



    Apparently he had a bit of a reinvention in the doomed Doomed.


    Although design wise, I always though they should close up the hemet more, to obscure his identity.
    They did the opposite, and exposed his entire face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    You and I are using the choice of the word "appearance" differently. I assumed the person meant "appearance" as in "look like" it was based on Colonial American attire / fashion. You seem to view it as just a "theme" and not necessarily looking like what a person would actually have worn then.
    Oh ok, cause superheroes wear thematic costumes, it's more than common. The bat in Batman is a theme, he's not dressed in an authentic looking fury bat costume.
    The - I will adopt this theme - It's a huge part of the genre.
    Minute-Man is not an actual Minute-Man, the name is a theme he adopts, as his costume would be.

    Even the images you posted to discredit the idea, clearly use it as a theme.
    That's not actually what they wore. The capes, colors, the little stars everywhere on the gloves, chest, etc... and a million other variations, you can do, are a theme.
    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Haven't there already been enough of those?




    Themed costumes are so incredibly common in superhero comics, so why would you suddenly default to not a theme, when these implicitly thematic costumes are your examples. ^
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