Vampire vs Superman/Kryptonian?

[taisteluperuna]

Just wondering, vampires are generally in the DC comics stated to have some level of invulnerability and superhuman strength. Have it ever been seen how/if they could stand up to a Kryptonian strength-wise and all?

[LifeIsILL]

Read Superman #180

Superman and Dracula duked it out and it didn't fare well for old Drac.

[taisteluperuna]

Read Superman #180

Superman and Dracula duked it out and it didn't fare well for old Drac.

Looks like that was from drinking his super sun enriched pure energy immolation mode blood, though. Sounds like he actually was capable of giving Superman a fight, though?

[Doctor Know]

You may want to give this a read.


http://ifanboy.com/articles/dc-histo...n-vs-vampires/

[raidensix]

It's ridiculous how the vampires somehow match Superman's strength.

[daBronzeBomma]

Exhibit A in the campaign to get rid of Superman's specific weakness to magic / the supernatural

[taisteluperuna]

Exhibit A in the campaign to get rid of Superman's specific weakness to magic / the supernatural

Why? Superman and Kryptonians in general are absurdly over-powered. Weaknesses make characters better. He is like basically only weak to an incredibly rare glowing green space rock, red sunlight radiation, and magic/supernatural. It is kind of nice to see he can not just shrug a vampire off like he does pretty much everything else.

[stephens2177]

If superman is absurdly over powered then why would a vampire of any kind be depicted as a challenge for him? He should be a million times more powerful than any of them easily.

And isn't vampires only "supposed" to be powerful enough to dispatch a human with ease anyway?

[Agent Z]

If superman is absurdly over powered then why would a vampire of any kind be depicted as a challenge for him? He should be a million times more powerful than any of them easily.

And isn't vampires only "supposed" to be powerful enough to dispatch a human with ease anyway?

Depends on the canon.

[taisteluperuna]

If superman is absurdly over powered then why would a vampire of any kind be depicted as a challenge for him? He should be a million times more powerful than any of them easily.

And isn't vampires only "supposed" to be powerful enough to dispatch a human with ease anyway?

Because the only reason that Superman is typically vulnerable to them is they are supernatural/magic and he is not invulnerable to that. Superman is definitely absurdly over-powered.

[daBronzeBomma]

Why? Superman and Kryptonians in general are absurdly over-powered.

Your opinion. I prefer Kryptonians (should) be as extremely powerful as they (should) be extremely rare, just one step below cosmic level. Not interested in Above-Average-Super-Hero-Man.

Weaknesses make characters better.

False. That's an overly broad statement, and one that is too easily and often abused through bad writing in Superman's case to hold any weight. Weaknesses do not make characters better, otherwise all characters would have specific weaknesses.

He is like basically only weak to an incredibly rare glowing green space rock, red sunlight radiation, and magic/supernatural.

Well, that's already two more specific weaknesses than other fictional characters have. Does Hulk have 3 specific weaknesses? Does Thor? Does Shazam? Does Silver Surfer? These guys are generally all in Supes' weight class, and they all do just fine without multiple specific weaknesses in their stories.

It is kind of nice to see he can not just shrug a vampire off like he does pretty much everything else.

Maybe to you. Definitely not to me. Superman is plenty vulnerable enough to punches to the face from other characters like Darkseid, Doomsday, Zod, Bizarro and many others.

Personally, it'd be kind of nice to see Dracula's teeth shatter on Kal's neck.

[taisteluperuna]

Your opinion. I prefer Kryptonians (should) be as extremely powerful as they (should) be extremely rare, just one step below cosmic level. Not interested in Above-Average-Super-Hero-Man.




False. That's an overly broad statement, and one that is too easily and often abused through bad writing in Superman's case to hold any weight. Weaknesses do not make characters better, otherwise all characters would have specific weaknesses.




Well, that's already two more specific weaknesses than other fictional characters have. Does Hulk have 3 specific weaknesses? Does Thor? Does Shazam? Does Silver Surfer? These guys are generally all in Supes' weight class, and they all do just fine without multiple specific weaknesses in their stories.




Maybe to you. Definitely not to me. Superman is plenty vulnerable enough to punches to the face from other characters like Darkseid, Doomsday, Zod, Bizarro and many others.

Personally, it'd be kind of nice to see Dracula's teeth shatter on Kal's neck.

This is all your opinion also, but these are characters that are equally as rare as Superman. Seriously, that is the problem. Anything that he is weak to is typically SUPER rare. As rare if not more rare than he is. There is not a race of Darkseids or a bunch of Zods and even when there was a bunch of Doomsdays in Superman/Batman Apocalypse, Superman still effortlessly killed a whole army of the darn guys. :/

Anyway, the question was just if a vampire could hurt Superman and whether they could put up a fight against his super strength and all; apparently they can. Answer given.

[daBronzeBomma]

This is all your opinion also, but these are characters that are equally as rare as Superman. Seriously, that is the problem. Anything that he is weak to is typically SUPER rare. As rare if not more rare than he is. There is not a race of Darkseids or a bunch of Zods and even when there was a bunch of Doomsdays in Superman/Batman Apocalypse, Superman still effortlessly killed a whole army of the darn guys. :/

Anyway, the question was just if a vampire could hurt Superman and whether they could put up a fight against his super strength and all; apparently they can. Answer given.

Those Doomsdays were vastly inferior clones of the original that Batman and Wonder Woman could take down with little difficulty. Not the same thing at all.

And, ultimately, vampire or any other supernatural being, it kinda doesn't matter. He's Superman, ultimately he finds a way to win. That's what heroes do.

[taisteluperuna]

Those Doomsdays were vastly inferior clones of the original that Batman and Wonder Woman could take down with little difficulty. Not the same thing at all.

And, ultimately, vampire or any other supernatural being, it kinda doesn't matter. He's Superman, ultimately he finds a way to win. That's what heroes do.

Which is unrealistic. In the real world, there is not always the happy ending. But that is not really the point, they are comic books and used for escapism. It is just personally more enjoyable when the hero has something that they have to struggle to overcome. It is not entertaining if what they are up against is basically like you know? Superman vs random thug with gun. What is the point? Why would you read that? You know how it will end. The thug has absolutely 0 chance.

It was just personally nice to find vampires can harm Kryptonians because there are so few things that actually can. A vampire would actually give them a bit of a fight, at least.

[daBronzeBomma]

Which is unrealistic. In the real world, there is not always the happy ending.

By that standard, Batman is completely unrealistic. So is every other super-hero ever created.

But that is not really the point, they are comic books and used for escapism.

This sentence completely invalidates your previous sentence, so why bother bringing up either of them?

It is just personally more enjoyable when the hero has something that they have to struggle to overcome.

No one says Superman shouldn't struggle, I just think he shouldn't struggle against something as pedestrian as "vampires". Demon lords like Blaze or Satanus are entirely a different story.

It is not entertaining if what they are up against is basically like you know? Superman vs random thug with gun. What is the point? Why would you read that? You know how it will end. The thug has absolutely 0 chance.

Funny, that exact premise powered THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN tv show starring George Reeves for 6 seasons from 1952 -1958. That show established Superman's dominance as an American icon. Besides ... exactly how often does Superman need to stop a human thug with a normal gun as the focus of a story anymore? Maybe as a quick prelude to some much larger threat, but that's it.

It was just personally nice to find vampires can harm Kryptonians because there are so few things that actually can. A vampire would actually give them a bit of a fight, at least.

Only if you think vampires are intrinsic to the Superverse. I don't. I rather enjoy seeing Superman stomp on baddies that aren't his own top-tier rogues.