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    Lightbulb For SM/WW fans - writer / illustrator question

    Charles Soule and Tony Daniel did a good job on the first run of SM/WW

    Within the constraints imposed by the stories running in the main arc "Doomed" , "Truth" I would say Peter Tomasi and Doug Mahnke are doing a reasonably good job as well

    Who would you like to see on the series at the helm and what are your hopes for the direction of this book?

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    Soule and Daniel already said they wouldn't mind coming back, i would really be happy with that. Tomasi and Mahnke's first arc seemed rushed but yeah I agree, even though I'm not too thrilled about the truth storyline over all, they have progressed.

    I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Yanick Paquette's art for the annual. I would like to see Ivan Reis, Jason Fabok, Jack Herbert, and Kenneth Rocafort. As for writing, not quite sure. It would be interesting to have a female writer.

    As for the direction, I would want to see them on big scale adventures, no unnecessary doom and gloom relationship straining and testing. Lol I believe we've had enough if that.

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    I desperately want to see the two go on a longterm space soujourn together, planet hopping and the like and getting into new standalone adventures every month.

    As for writing, I'm very interested to see how a female would write the couple, maybe someone like Valentine.

    For art, my dream would be the Dodsons doing interiors.
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    Thank you for the replies -

    I am not exactly sure about the sources but I have heard it mention that at least Meredith Finch is not too keen on the book. I know Gail Simone has her share of followers and I am curious at to how she would handle the story. Also I would agree that just like JL and JLA are running in "parallel" but without a definite connection to the other super books - Superman having his powers and Bruce being Batman - I would like for SM/WW to have a stand alone point of view and not be tied down to the Superman story arcs.

    I think it was last month or so that a couple of the reviews had pegged it as the best written of all the Superman titles in "Truth" but I guess that is another post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    I desperately want to see the two go on a longterm space soujourn together, planet hopping and the like and getting into new standalone adventures every month.
    That or as I said in another post - solve crimes of international intrigue - on a theme of "Private Life of Clark Kent" from COIE using their powers off panel or at a minimum - using the Clark Kent (or whatever he decides to adopt identity) and the Diana Prince persona -

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    Probably wouldn't want to see Finch on it anyway considering how the main Wonder Woman title is. Simone's work is hit or miss for me, and with her not being a fan of the two together in the first place would make me wonder how much her heart would be in it. And I always found her Wonder Woman rather boring anyway.

    As for "Truth", for me Action is the best written, hands down. SM/WW would be second, but it doesn't touch the quality of Action, imo. Speaking of, Pak is another writer I wouldn't at all mind see on the book. In fact I think he'd be better suited here than on Batman/Superman.
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    Any thoughts about the two "overseas" guys - Grant Morrison or Sir Alan Moore (if he would come back)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManSinha View Post
    Any thoughts about the two "overseas" guys - Grant Morrison or Sir Alan Moore (if he would come back)?
    God I'd want Morrison on the book for like an arc or two (he's not into writing month to month books) just to see the commentary he'd come up with on the two being together. This would be even more palpable since he'd be coming of the mega empowering (so it seems) and super progressive (no big masculine ending fight in the book) Wonder Woman: Earth One. Then remember this is the guy who wrote the book on Superman (literally) and embraces the characters masculine Arthurian (ish) solar legend. The subtext would probably be so thick you could eat it with fork.

    I imagine he's not for the couple though. He's always been a big advocate (along with the other greats: Neil Gaiman and Warren Ellis) of the thematic importance and beauty of Superman and Lois Lane. Then again, Morrison did write the new 52 Superman and he's gone on record saying "this guy isn't my Superman". But he's always said that he understand and likes why this new guy is here now, so who knows.

    Moore simply wouldn't write it. End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Soule and Daniel already said they wouldn't mind coming back, i would really be happy with that. Tomasi and Mahnke's first arc seemed rushed but yeah I agree, even though I'm not too thrilled about the truth storyline over all, they have progressed.

    I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Yanick Paquette's art for the annual. I would like to see Ivan Reis, Jason Fabok, Jack Herbert, and Kenneth Rocafort. As for writing, not quite sure. It would be interesting to have a female writer.

    As for the direction, I would want to see them on big scale adventures, no unnecessary doom and gloom relationship straining and testing. Lol I believe we've had enough if that.
    I like the artists you mentioned. I am not bothered about gender of the writer as long as they buy into the concept of the couple and write interesting stories. I am thinking now Geoff is writing Diana better be interesting to see how he's tackle them since he sort of started it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManSinha View Post
    Thank you for the replies -

    I am not exactly sure about the sources but I have heard it mention that at least Meredith Finch is not too keen on the book. I know Gail Simone has her share of followers and I am curious at to how she would handle the story. Also I would agree that just like JL and JLA are running in "parallel" but without a definite connection to the other super books - Superman having his powers and Bruce being Batman - I would like for SM/WW to have a stand alone point of view and not be tied down to the Superman story arcs.

    I think it was last month or so that a couple of the reviews had pegged it as the best written of all the Superman titles in "Truth" but I guess that is another post
    No offense to Ms Simone but her WW run was so so...some good , some kinda mediocre and she's pro Lois judging by her social media opinions and really think she's better as a street level writer than with meta heroes.

    I agree it would be nice to see the SM/WW have its own flavor as well. We can get grounded human stories touching on social issues balanced with the sci-fi/ mythical/magical...getting DC to go big and like Sacred said an off world jaunt would be awesome. I'd love to see some time travelling. I'd love to see Superman interact with Diana's mythology too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    No offense to Ms Simone but her WW run was so so...some good , some kinda mediocre and she's pro Lois judging by her social media opinions and really think she's better as a street level writer than with meta heroes.

    I agree it would be nice to see the SM/WW have its own flavor as well. We can get grounded human stories touching on social issues balanced with the sci-fi/ mythical/magical...getting DC to go big and like Sacred said an off world jaunt would be awesome. I'd love to see some time travelling. I'd love to see Superman interact with Diana's mythology too.
    For time travelling I think it'd be fun for the two of them to have an adventure with the Legion in the future. A lot of Diana's rogue's gallery are immortal, so you could use one of them as the foil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManSinha View Post
    Charles Soule and Tony Daniel did a good job on the first run of SM/WW

    Within the constraints imposed by the stories running in the main arc "Doomed" , "Truth" I would say Peter Tomasi and Doug Mahnke are doing a reasonably good job as well

    Who would you like to see on the series at the helm and what are your hopes for the direction of this book?
    I'd prefer both the artwork and writing of Soule &Daniel over Tomasi & Mahnke.

    But overall I dislike the SM/WW title constantly getting sidetracked by crossover events and that seems to be an issue unrelated to which team is in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    For time travelling I think it'd be fun for the two of them to have an adventure with the Legion in the future. A lot of Diana's rogue's gallery are immortal, so you could use one of them as the foil.
    I need a steampunk Superman and Wonder Woman story. Seriously. I have been seeing some great art and cosplay with them and it makes me want to read them in that setting. I think even them having a time flux and having alternate timeline happening like the way sm/bm Absolute Power was would be cool. I need Diana to hang with Krypto too.

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    There really needs to be some kind of shake off and not the whole " is it going to end?" Kind of thing DC has pulling on every solicist. How about getting Diana pregnant? That's gonna be BIG.

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    I'll probably come back on a list a few creators I'd like to see later on, but as for story/direction?

    I'd like to see a lot of things honestly, but now that I think about it I'd really like to see the road to the break up, the break up itself, and then aftermath/rebuilding of a friendship. Before anyone jumps on me for not being a fan or whatever, I'd just like to say that I'm like one of the OG Superman/Wonder Woman supporters. I just thought that there was a great story to tell with these two.

    I think there's some really fertile ground for a break story. But I'd like to see it played as almost simultaneously epic and intimate in scale. I don't know why but I've always had this image of Wonder Woman running at that the crack of down through a quite DC neighborhood, and Superman floating down to say hello. The two have spent some time apart. She's doing he diplomat thing. He's reestablishing his mission and life. It's awkward. They're allowed to be awkward. It ends with a s'long and a smile, and a "we should save the world together sometime". I think this whole story (break up and reestablishment) should play out over issues that seem like one off but really have a larger thematic link. This way the scale can be large, but the characters can drive the overarching narrative and goal.

    Then I'd like to see how the handle the book going forward.

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